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[panzerman]

57 better for pentrating chuchil than pak :S

also 57 hit more than paks. in ATG vs ATG, i steal 57's just so i can kill other 57's.

[TheVolskinator]

Im a history nut, I study ww2 intensively. 6pdr was the original gun, 57mm is an ami copy, 17pdr was 76.2mm, PaK40 was a 75mm rapebeast, PaK38 was its more common relative, PaK36 was a joke to anything larger than an M8 or BA-64 Armored Car. The modifiers i was talking about were vs. snipers, I misplaced them. Doesnt effect ATG combat at all, soz. And Im never useing ATGs v. a def. comm. ever again D:.

[Sachaztan]

If you decrease the accuracy vs atg's you have to do the same vs 50mm's, otherwise pe are at a massive disadvantage in this respect.

Nope, since we're talking atg vs atg here and nothing else.

[Mister Schmidt]

A 50mm is the PE equivalent though

[TheVolskinator]

=a VEHICLE=ATG noms.

[Sachaztan]

A 50mm is the PE equivalent though

You never stopped to think about the fact that it works both ways? If atgs don't get lowered accuracy vs 50mil then 50mil doesn't get _____

Fill in the blank.

[RikiRude]

I don't think it matters what you do, people are going to use atgs to fire at atgs always and forever.

[Sachaztan]

I don't think it matters what you do, people are going to use atgs to fire at atgs always and forever.

That is not the issue, the issue is how effective it is.

[nugnugx]

atg vs atg is totaly fine,  nubs stop whining about this.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Yay i am a noob

[PonySlaystation]

atg vs atg is totally fine,  nubs stop whining about this.

Nug is right, it's not a problem. It requires about 4-5 shots to kill one and that's not gonna happen easily.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Wrong, It is 3-4 to kill a pak with 6 pounder and if using 17pounderr or pak 40 if you dont get the 4hp bug its mostly 2 shots.

[Killer344]

They have 50% accuracy vs each other, so it's indeed 4-5. (the pak40 is bugged atm, it shouldn't have 100% accu)

[TheVolskinator]

It shouldnt, but it does.

[EliteGren]

..that's what he said?

[Uglysori]

If you decrease the accuracy vs atg's you have to do the same vs 50mm's, otherwise pe are at a massive disadvantage in this respect.

From what Firesparks told me the accuracy of 50mm against ATGs has already been lowered for a while now.  50mm used to be a direct copy of the pak38 except for 5 less range, and combined with the old accuracy and the fact that 50mm used to be able to shoot on the move, you could basically use 3 50mm to snipe out single 57mm with little to no damage in return given the inherent mobility advantage.

[CrazyWR]

he means atgs sniping 50mms...