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[RikiRude]

I don't think this is a crap unit, plus it has a .50 on top. But I'm having a tough time using it, I think if I can use it right I can really take advantage of the fuel I save vs getting M-10s. I'm just curious about placement of hawkins mines (why do they take so long to deploy btw?) and where to cloak, and when is the right time to open up.

Also how are T-17s? I was upset about no WP rounds because I used to have a great 2x m8 & t17 start I used to do great with, but with out +10% penetration that m8s used to get and no WP rounds I skipped out on using T17s. Thanks, I'm still getting back on my feet and used to all the unit/doctrine changes.

[AmPM]

M18 is a good light/medium armor killer. In ambush it can lay out some serious pain.

T17 I haven't really used much.

[Hicks58]

The .50cal on the Hellcat is more of a hindrance than a help. If you want to slip into max range, cloak and fire, the .50cal will open up on anything in range before you get chance to cloak, keeping you visible.

That, and the Hellcat .50cal aint got a scratch on the Sherman one.

Anything bigger than a PIV will cause serious pain to a Hellcat, and you'll do nothing in return unless your competent with the ambush ability. Hell, a PIV will kick you around unless you use max range cloak hit and runs.

T-17 is a hell of an infantry killer, just mind you keep it away from any AT due to it's fragility.

[Demon767]

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=18214.0

start here and read, might find something useful there
one stat that sticks in mind

m18 = 46 sight - 45 range

nice AYE

T17s are awesome! snipy snipe snipe of enemy infantry and fast as hell. a little less viable now that rifle zooks was taken out, completely destroyed my armour build but you can still use them, just equip a sticky with one squad.

[Tymathee]

m18's have horrid pen vs the frontal armor of any tanks but they're great flankers against tanks and if u get behind something, it'll mess it up real good. even panthers will run from an m-18 once it gets behind it

[RikiRude]

i guess my thing is i think im using the HC to it's potential by hitting a target at max range, but it's usually from the front and those bounce all the time, I guess I need to be finding a spot to put the HC off to the side, further ahead of my ATG so I can get side/rear shots when my ATG gets attacked?

[Hicks58]

Best way to use the Hellcat is to drive to max range and hit cloak before you fire your round. Take your shot, then back the hell off and stay in max range or wait untill you can do another hit and run.

Hellcats are more about whittling down medium armour and above rather than destroying it outright in a single confrontation. They'll tear LV's to bits mind you.

[AmPM]

I like to set up the Hellcat behind and to one side of the ATG, that way your ATG does most of the fighting, but if they try to flank you get the ambush and some rear shots.

[NightRain]

I like to set up the Hellcat behind and to one side of the ATG, that way your ATG does most of the fighting, but if they try to flank you get the ambush and some rear shots.

Now that is kind of a fail strategy. 10 pop sitting behind atg doin nothin but looking at the flank.

it is better to Park it in front of the atg, put it in ambush mode. ATG gets 46 more Sight range provided by the Hellcat and if someone tries to FLANK it the Hellcat can be used to block the flanker and the ATG still does the dmg without dying or taking any damage.

[AmPM]

Except that then, anytime they come at you with infantry, you have to decloak and move.

Sitting behind, taking an ATG shot and then backing the ATG up towards the Hellcat works pretty well.

[TheVolskinator]

Use the ATG behind the M18. Single tanks usually rush single ATGs with the hope of a circle strafe, nothing worse than another ATG cannon ninja'ing out of camo and lolraping your tank with a couple of 76mm rounds up the ass...mm, kinky...

[DarkSoldierX]

why u revive dead thread.

[Tymathee]

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