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Firesparks
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pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 03:26:41 am »
the pershing is missing some of the intended damage bonus against panther. It should be 1.39 damage modifier against panther (191 damage) but it's only getting a 1.21 damage modifier currently(166)
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Unkn0wn
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 07:10:06 am »
Have we not fixed this already? HVAP seems to get stronger by the minute, lol.
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 08:35:50 am »
4 shot kill panthers, poor kitties.
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LeoPhone
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 08:50:55 am »
why should it be 1.39?
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 08:59:57 am »
1.1 x 1.1 x 1.15 = 1.3915
So basicly normal pershing does 1.1 damage vs nonskirt panther.
Then HVAP gives ALL tanks 10% more dmg vs vehicles.
Then pershing hvap gives pershing 15% more dmg vs heavies (Panther, tiger, jagdpanther, jagdtiger, tiger II, maus)
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LeoPhone
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 09:33:27 am »
Quote from: DarkSoldierX on June 23, 2011, 08:59:57 am
Then pershing hvap gives pershing 15% more dmg vs heavies (Panther, tiger, jagdpanther, jagdtiger, tiger II, maus)
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Pershing HVAP: HVAP with vCoh HVAP Buff instead of +33% Penetration,
Additional +15% Damage vs Tiger, KT, Jagdpanther
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Rahx
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 09:48:33 am »
Quote from: DarkSoldierX on June 23, 2011, 08:59:57 am
1.1 x 1.1 x 1.15 = 1.3915
so funny to see people calculate
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Unkn0wn
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 09:50:00 am »
Actually, HVAP T4 is not supposed to give the pershing the 10% additional damage, crits and +33% penetration ON TOP of the Pershing HVAP and +15% damage. (I think)
Also, it needs to be noted that the HVAP from vCOH is actually a downgrade versus infantry. I don't know why bob opted to implement it rather than just providing it with a flat penetration and/or damage modifier.
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Demon767
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 10:04:16 am »
Quote from: Rahx on June 23, 2011, 09:48:33 am
so funny to see people calculate
that's what that formula equals Rahx lol
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Rahx
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 11:09:15 am »
Quote from: Demon767 on June 23, 2011, 10:04:16 am
that's what that formula equals Rahx lol
My result is at least more than you
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Firesparks
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 01:07:06 pm »
Quote from: Unkn0wn on June 23, 2011, 09:50:00 am
Actually, HVAP T4 is not supposed to give the pershing the 10% additional damage, crits and +33% penetration ON TOP of the Pershing HVAP and +15% damage. (I think)
Also, it needs to be noted that the HVAP from vCOH is actually a downgrade versus infantry. I don't know why bob opted to implement it rather than just providing it with a flat penetration and/or damage modifier.
except the ability already gave +25% damage against tiger(1.0x1.1x1.15) and +39%(1.1x1.1x1.15) damage against the jagdpanther and +10% damage against everything else as well.
Even if it's only 15%, then the current bonus for against the panther is wrong as well, as it's 1.1x1.1 instead of 1.1x1.15
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Unkn0wn
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 01:13:03 pm »
Alright, well then it sounds like we'll have to remove the 'all tank' bonus from affecting the pershing AND fix the pershing modifier vs the panther.
(Btw firesparks, you can post these straight to TRAC, don't need to post it here)
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LeoPhone
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 23, 2011, 04:12:37 pm »
stop messing your minds up.
pershing hvap is fine.
If anything, there is a small error in the tiger and jagdpanther dmg modifiers.
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Re: pershing hvap damage bonus
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June 24, 2011, 08:33:19 am »
Quote from: Unkn0wn on June 23, 2011, 09:50:00 am
Also, it needs to be noted that the HVAP from vCOH is actually a downgrade versus infantry. I don't know why bob opted to implement it rather than just providing it with a flat penetration and/or damage modifier.
I've already pointed this out and been shot down before.
Apparently the Pershing would be OP with HVAP modifiers and keeping it's normal splash.
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