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« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2011, 11:08:48 pm »

Let me just correct you on a couple of things.

1. Those 'high and mighty' people who wrote that were being persucted across the land by a King who happened to be 'legally' gods represntative on earth. They were privelaged for the time, true in the terms that there families could afford to give them education. Or the ones that the declaration was based on, The French Revolution i mean those people must have been really high on there horses after watching Napoleon the artillery officer unleash grapeshot on very large group of civilian protesters then get rewarded by yet another king. But hey, fuck voting, lets just abandon this foolish idea and let someone like Pinochet be incharge.

2. Why shouldn't liberty be a right, whats wrong with taking a stance against slavery? In the event of 2 men adrift at sea, both of them are probably going to die, so your point isn't only moot, its not much of one. I really think you should learn the deffinition of Unalienable. Pretty much it states that i have no right to take your life or freedoms and end it, or give it to someone else (slavery), or for whatever means stand in your path and prevent you from living.

3. Security of Person, why shouldn't you go there, i mean you clearly have no respect for the quality of life that you are living.

If you really want to keep defending your position, go do some gold mining in south america, if you ever make it back and STILL think this way then good for you.

Right to Life: The basis for law making unsanctioned killing illegal. More of a privilege.

Security of Person: This is your own responsibility. No body elses. Either enforce it for yourself or it doesn't exist.

Liberty: This is not a "right", it is earned, usually by the blood and sweat of people that are willing to stand up and do something, not by people who insist that they should be free because it is written on a piece of paper.

Again, your "rights" exist only as far as you are personally willing to defend them, otherwise they are privileges allowed to you by others. Privileges can be taken away.

You can argue about ideals all day, in the end they are meaningless. The only thing that matters is what you are willing to do for yourself, and what others are willing to do to you.
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Masacree Offline
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« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2011, 12:37:32 am »

i still think there are some universal rights and wrongs out there though.

This could be fun.

What exactly is a universal truth?
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« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2011, 10:18:54 am »

This is why we can't have nice things.
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« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2011, 01:07:59 pm »

What exactly is a universal truth?


Nothing, as there is no universe, only my mind. You are all really just a part of me, there is nothing but me.
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« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2011, 01:09:51 pm »

Yes, sparta is right
only i have the real consciousness of a human being and you are all just a part of my imagination  Wink
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« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2011, 01:37:42 pm »

Yes, sparta is right
only i have the real consciousness of a human being and you are all just a part of my imagination  Wink

explains all the retards and assholes out there in the world then
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« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2011, 01:42:47 pm »

Yea i made everyone into a copy of me.
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Masacree Offline
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« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2011, 08:14:38 pm »


Nothing, as there is no universe, only my mind. You are all really just a part of me, there is nothing but me.

I <3 solipsism.

Drove all of my english teachers crazy.

But they don't exist.

So who cares.
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« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2011, 08:18:32 pm »

Schmidt, you may be better at CoH then I am, but at least I can brag about a 98.9 average.

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Masacree Offline
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« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2011, 08:20:11 pm »

Schmidt, you may be better at CoH then I am, but at least I can brag about a 98.9 average.

A: best letter ever.

L2homework.

Anyone who thinks grades are an accurate indicator of intelligence learned nothing in school.
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« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2011, 08:27:22 pm »

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Bad grades!
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Masacree Offline
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« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2011, 08:29:04 pm »

No, I learned to game the system as much as anyone. I was quite high in my class.
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« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2011, 05:39:12 am »

Anyone who thinks grades are an accurate indicator of intelligence learned nothing in school.

This is true, but then again, grades are not supposed to be interpreted as an indicator of your intelligence in the first place. They're only an indicator of how well you can study and work for something.
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« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2011, 08:17:17 am »

This is true, but then again, grades are not supposed to be interpreted as an indicator of your intelligence in the first place. They're only an indicator of how well you can study and work for something.

Exactly.  Cool
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« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2011, 08:28:22 am »

Grades are an indicator of nothing but how well you can relay the information required of you on the test at the given period of time. It is not a good measure of intelligence, it is not a good measure of understanding and it is not even a good measure of knowledge - because the majority of people forget everything they've needed to know for a test within a fortnight (and lets of course not forget the wide-spread use of crib-notes).

Extended essay grades can be perceived as something that's testament to your actual ability to dedicate yourself and work for something... yet you're not exactly going to right a 5 page epic on 2+2, are you(unless you're me)?
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Masacree Offline
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« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2011, 10:13:55 am »

This is true, but then again, grades are not supposed to be interpreted as an indicator of your intelligence in the first place. They're only an indicator of how well you can study and work for something.

Actually, they're really only a good indicator of your ability to make good grades, but even that is context dependent.

Exactly.  Cool

As is developing skill in a game.
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