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aeroblade56 Offline
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« on: December 22, 2011, 10:55:14 pm »

So i noticed something i was playing in a 2v2 yesterday with my croc company against a defensive and i think a tank destroyer company anyway, my croc with smoke field and a well timed assault took a 88 and destroyed 1mg bunker tons of infantry and 2 marders. by the time the smoke cleared my croc had 13 kills more then the start. and i noticed i hulled down infront of the 88 and fired at the armed 88 now i expected the fire to obvously in green cover to obliterate the 88 in a matter of seconds, This was not the case. my croc took 3 more hits almost being dead before i called my cct and finishing it up quite fast. there was a medic bunker there of course.

Im confused does the medic bunker prevent some sort of crits or antiflame ? it came to me as a shock when the after 7 seconds in flame i managed to kill nothing on the 88 but it proceeded to heal. untill my cct got close enough to give me bonuses and kill it in another couple seconds. Also what bonuses does the cct give? i never really used em before cause i would always run em into bad situations.
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2011, 02:32:33 am »

the CCT  "should" only buff the 6pdr on the churchill croc.

the croc also does 50% more dmg to the 88s crew coz of the cover, but its still depending on damage over time.
if the 88 is healed by a medic bunker + pops medkits you could start to see some weird shit.

or you were just unlucky.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2011, 04:16:44 am »

but it was really wierd it was in pure flame for at least 10 seconds. and i think it was just the medbunker. i thought its kinda silly that u can do that with a 88 :/ uber green cover medbunker wins. okay what does the cct do for cromwells>?  i noticed croms are actually worth something with one next to them. What are the buffs croms get?
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2011, 05:15:13 am »

Tanks vs the 88 have a damage modifier that makes the much less effective to the 88.  This is why the 88 seems to never die after you throw all your armor on it.

ATGs can hurt an 88, but the 88 can easily one shot those bitches.  Best tactic when dealing with 88s is to barrage it, or around it.  Use smoke to final assault it with infantry, aka flame infantry will burn it out quickly.  Avoid it and wear it down with arty or other long range support (Callie or mortors, mortors better used for smoke IMO)  If you are able to ninja snipe it with an ATG in range, that's good.  Best way to do that is make it in position when you have sight take a shot and move it back behind a blocker.  Very situation.

88's expecially the defensive 88 that is basically every unit in the game rolled into one is hard to kill..  And i believe a recent patch has made hand held at like airborn RR's to destroy the gun in-effective now...  But i could be wrong.  Its just better to not let them build and 88 and keep the pressure on Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2011, 05:20:24 am »

Tanks vs the 88 have a damage modifier that makes the much less effective to the 88.  This is why the 88 seems to never die after you throw all your armor on it.

Umm what are you talking about?

ATGs can hurt an 88, but the 88 can easily one shot those bitches.

No they can't.
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2011, 08:01:26 am »

Tanks vs the 88 have a damage modifier that makes the much less effective to the 88.  This is why the 88 seems to never die after you throw all your armor on it.

Yes! Throw the type of units at it that it's supposed to hardcounter, good idea.
ATGs can hurt an 88, but the 88 can easily one shot those bitches.
Can not happen. This argument is nothing but a plain lie. This is why no one takes you seriously.

To the OP:

Flames kill with crits, and those only work when the unit is at low health. Flamers don't really do anything to healing units unless you have a massive amount of firepower supporting it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2011, 08:18:36 am »

88s are super easy to destroy

Rule 1: dont waste time barraging -.-, as soon as you see it being built, you only need 2 simple units

1 ATG + any hand held

if someoen has smoke offmap, do it immidetely, then head towards 88, it will be destroyed in no time, 99% success rate.
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2011, 09:28:01 am »

Riki and i last night vs gorkhali and area rick rolled by caping it was a 40 minute game with 1 88 6 bunkers and a med bunker. Riki joust flanked hard and back caped em. it was the most boring game i have ever played. max kills was like 50.
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2011, 09:48:20 am »

Riki and i last night vs gorkhali and area rick rolled by caping it was a 40 minute game with 1 88 6 bunkers and a med bunker. Riki joust flanked hard and back caped em. it was the most boring game i have ever played. max kills was like 50.

There have been more action packed game in the past. Look at the playtime



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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2011, 09:49:05 am »

The only Allied tank gun which has modifiers against the 88 is the Pershing, to which I'm aware of.

The Pershing has 0.75 Accuracy and 0.45 damage. This makes the Pershing do 61.375 damage against the 88 having it take 6.1 shots to destroy it (So more than likely the 7th shot is going to do the trick).

Never understood why the Pershing was so gimped against the 88 tbh.

Everything else does standard damage and accuracy though.
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2011, 10:02:18 am »

the pershing is gipped against the gay wagon it takes some 5 shots with all the modifiers and the locked down apcr marder takes  even less. its kinda silly cause isnt the pershing the only allied tank to get a modifier vs panther tiger.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2011, 10:11:34 am »

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the pershing is gipped against the gay wagon it takes some 5 shots with all the modifiers and the locked down apcr marder takes  even less.

lol,take a breath and now write this so we can understand what you are talking about...
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2011, 11:04:46 am »

Don't know what your talking about Aero, the Geshitz uses Marder III armour and has 375 health. The third round from a Pershing will paste it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2011, 11:19:31 am »

the pershing is gipped against the gay wagon it takes some 5 shots with all the modifiers and the locked down apcr marder takes  even less. its kinda silly cause isnt the pershing the only allied tank to get a modifier vs panther tiger.
I think hes high.

Ok girls, know what pershing can have that rapes 88s?

HE rounds. It is perfect against 88s. Ive killed a few 88s with some HE rounds.

And you know what else counters a 88?

A huge ass flank that wtf rapes the 88.

Seriously, combine your teams units into two groups, one main group that flanks, and a 2nd group that flanks the repositioned PaKs/88 by attacking the old front.
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2011, 11:42:16 am »

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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2011, 04:46:12 pm »

you dont need a huge as flank to beat a 88, even having a tank sacrifice while your ATG finishes the job, its over right there and then.
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