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GrayWolf Offline
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« on: May 26, 2014, 12:09:11 pm »

How about giving pak36 a APCR buff. No one really uses it, so maybe this will resurect this unit Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 01:25:06 pm »

Its true potential is its ability versus light vehicles. It has medicore infantry accuracy as well, by no means is it effective versus infantry but it sure can hit them more often than any other anti tank gun. It is fast and mobile as well. Ironically if enemy gets their hands onto it, it will counter everything you can field as PE. (except P4 IST, Hetzer, JP and Panther).

It is poor versus medium vehicles tho- which it isn't meant to counter, I'd say, give it Focus fire or something as a tier 3-4 ability.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2014, 02:13:11 pm »

I remember when my entire PE company got wiped because my teammate kept losing his pak36s...brutal.  And it will hurt ISTs.  As for hurting allied light vehicles, the problem is that it is only going to fire one or maaaaybe two shots at them before they get around it, at which point it is screwed, and the damage output isn't enough to really threaten those LV's.  I'd be in favor of looking at giving it treadbreaker.  It would only get used in a few situations, since it would have to be pointing the right way already, but it would give the weapon a chance to get extra shots off at the target if it is positioned properly prior to the attack coming in.  This way you don't have to mess with the damage at all, and perhaps make it very OP vs infantry.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2014, 02:30:05 pm »

I really can't stand tread break, it feels like a fix for stupid.

Lolk 45 range 40 second (Or permanent if you hit rear armour) engine damage. The ability lets you murder any single target with impunity, last thing I want to see is more of it.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2014, 02:37:33 pm »

I really can't stand tread break, it feels like a fix for stupid.

Lolk 45 range 40 second (Or permanent if you hit rear armour) engine damage. The ability lets you murder any single target with impunity, last thing I want to see is more of it.

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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2014, 02:50:40 pm »

Man, not sure treadbreak would be a good idea o...

Welp, can't give what it already has.

Didn't we nerf it quite heavilly to? Wasn't it well over a minute before?
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2014, 02:57:44 pm »

Is there a strong opposition against giving it a tank-like accuracy vs inf? Maybe not vs ATG crews.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2014, 03:00:02 pm »

Is there a strong opposition against giving it a tank-like accuracy vs inf? Maybe not vs ATG crews.
Dat akward moment when I have to point out that it pretty much has...

Nobodys used the thing since it was buffed have they?
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2014, 03:01:42 pm »

Well GJ if you did, but if something sucks for eons then you sort of forget about testing it. I might give it a try in some tard game so I dont have to stress if it blows.
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2014, 03:05:46 pm »

i have used them.  they hit enough for me to avoid fighting em if i have a choice.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2014, 03:45:15 pm »

Ask heartmann about them,  he was using them for awhile, they hit what they need to his hard. With the added bonus of camo, high rof and mobility. Unlike say the bofors which will prioritse an ist over inf
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NightRain Offline
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2014, 10:19:42 pm »

I have used them. They hit infantry once a while but I wouldn't call it a infantry killer as some people are making it sound like it.

48% chance to hit infantry in long range is not amazing but it is certainly better than other anti tank guns. I don't recommend calling these things on to shoot infantry with.

On the treadbreak ability tho, it is kinda hard to pull it off since it has that 45 range on it and it takes far longer for it to pop it compared to LATHT so it ain't the easiest thing to pull off but it certainly is possible.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 08:21:57 am »

I have used them. They hit infantry once a while but I wouldn't call it a infantry killer as some people are making it sound like it.

48% chance to hit infantry in long range is not amazing but it is certainly better than other anti tank guns. I don't recommend calling these things on to shoot infantry with.

On the treadbreak ability tho, it is kinda hard to pull it off since it has that 45 range on it and it takes far longer for it to pop it compared to LATHT so it ain't the easiest thing to pull off but it certainly is possible.

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