Darkest Hour 3.0 released!

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[Baine]

Well today, they released the newest version!


http://steamcommunity.com/games/DH


www.darkesthourgame.com

Download:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/1280/

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It's a Red Orchestra modification, concentrating on the western battlefields. It's awesome! Try it out.

[BigDick]

IMBA RO is game where a tank is a tank and not a joke

[RikiRude]

Oh boy I've been waiting for a good release by these guys.

[DasNoob]

Played the hell out of RO back in the day, is the mod quality?

[Unkn0wn]

I played the older versions, was pretty good but lacked in a lot of areas imo.
Will give it another spin later.

[RikiRude]

it's not working for me =(

i keep getting "dh_some file or other" is a mismatch.

[Baine]

You had to delete the older version if you have one.

http://forums.darkesthourgame.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3721

[nugnugx]

downloading right now...


king tiger ftw , eat my shell from other side of map sherman !!! pew pew

[Guderian]

http://www.29th.org/

Its one of the dominant clan (but still quite few members ^^)

Its basically a realism unit whit very hardcore members, It is fun and makes progress feel like it is worth something.

To note: It is not for everyone.

[Duckordie]

This mod is good, the aiming is bullshit, the aming is made to use a Ps3 or gameboy controls.

These guys says it realistic, but thats bs. You dont fire like this or move your wepon like that, its just bull shit,

[Guderian]

This mod is good, the aiming is bullshit, the aming is made to use a Ps3 or gameboy controls.

These guys says it realistic, but thats bs. You dont fire like this or move your wepon like that, its just bull shit,

Firing standing up is insanely hard man.

You must get to a low wall or lie down to rest your weapon and look down the iron sight.

[Duckordie]

Its like this are the weekest soilders eaver been, Kar98 is NOT heavy

[brn4meplz]

A Kar98 may not be heavy but carrying shit all the time is taxing. How much Military experience do you have? Because i can tell you that you're never perfectly rested before combat, hell your never even rested before shooting on a Firing range. Weapons may not be heavy but the physical limits soldiers put their bodies too makes fatigue that much more noticeable. Start 200 meters from a target, run 100 meters in a sprint and then try firing from the standing position. Your grouping is going to be so shit.

[Malevolence]

This mod is good, the aiming is bullshit, the aming is made to use a Ps3 or gameboy controls.

These guys says it realistic, but thats bs. You dont fire like this or move your wepon like that, its just bull shit,

It's not that it's realistic, it is in fact a bit too far on the side of hampering realism, but it is representative of the problems you would realistically have in an environment like this.

Not even crack soldiers can shoot very well while under the pressure of a battlefield, much less from a standing position.

[brn4meplz]

Yeah, you'd cringe if you knew the firing rates of basic infantry throughout world war 2. no one wants to play a game where the 3 men near you are too scared to shoot

[Guderian]

It is not swinging everywhere and it is heavier then it looks.
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I mean compare to holding a camera 100 procent still (its surprisingly hard even after a few seconds  )

[RikiRude]

thanks baine, i got it working now!

[Guderian]

Yeah, you'd cringe if you knew the firing rates of basic infantry throughout world war 2. no one wants to play a game where the 3 men near you are too scared to shoot

I yust saw an amazing documentary about this: Studies made under ww2 actually stated that only 2 procent of the men actually shoot to kill. (1 procent being psychopaths and the others being the real actual heroes)


It is extremely hard to believe but the facts and the psychology experiments and tests states the opposite.

But generally the others where yust shooting randomly/looking around/doing other matters (as getting ammo and such)

Much of the killing was generally by tanks, artillery etc.

The thing is that the man yust can't look into another mans face and shoot him, We have a trigger in our brain that makes us stop.


Even the executions were explained as men are killed 99procent facing the face away from the shooter.

[stumpster]

Yeah, you'd cringe if you knew the firing rates of basic infantry throughout world war 2. no one wants to play a game where the 3 men near you are too scared to shoot

I yust saw an amazing documentary about this: Studies made under ww2 actually stated that only 2 procent of the men actually shoot to kill. (1 procent being psychopaths and the others being the real actual heroes)


It is extremely hard to believe but the facts and the psychology experiments and tests states the opposite.

But generally the others where yust shooting randomly/looking around/doing other matters (as getting ammo and such)

Much of the killing was generally by tanks, artillery etc.

The thing is that the man yust can't look into another mans face and shoot him, We have a trigger in our brain that makes us stop.


Even the executions were explained as men are killed 99procent facing the face away from the shooter.

[citation needed]

[brn4meplz]

The scientific logic and facts behind it is that after 60 days of continuous combat(a high stress environment) 98% of the population will break down into psychiatric casualties. There were more Psychiatric casualties in the Allied armies then actual casualties. Only a small percentage of Front line combat soldiers fired their weapons at the enemy, and of those only a much smaller percentage fired them effectively.

The remaining 2% of the population are people who thrive in high stress life or death environments. They typically have a naturally high aggressive mentality. this comprises your typical war hero and also your sociopaths(serial killers and things of the like)

Because of studies done at the end of World war 2 in relation to Soldier firing rates several Training improvements were made to desensitize soldiers to the task ahead of time. Western nations now typically see 90-95% firing rates because of the lessens learned.

All animals have a natural aversion to killing their own kind, this is no different in humans.(not that special aggressive personalities do exist)

Throughout the entirety of history most Armed conflict has been fairly straight forward. Of all the battles you read about in ancient history and even the ones leading up to a modern era the vast majority of the killing actually takes place when an enemy is Routed. Theres something entirely non-human about a man when all you can see is his back. People tend to recognize facial features and mentally you fall into a hunter Mindset when your foe is running from you. He becomes the prey and you the predator. Most executions are carried out from behind to facilitate the actual executions. It's much harder for your average joe to kill a person when looking them in the eye(even if they are under duress themselves)

There are 2 main attributes that contribute to a soldiers effectiveness. The first being distance. The further you are from someone the less human they become, and thusly the easier to kill. This is plainly evident in Bomber crews of World War 2, the Bomber crews could not see "Who" they were bombing, only "What" they were bombing.

The second is Crew served weapons. Machine guns, Artillery, and Tanks. These types of weapons have always seen higher fire rates because of Distance, but also because of the fact it has multiple people operating them. Also their absence in firing is clearly noticeable