Smokaz
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« on: July 10, 2009, 03:20:55 pm » |
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Baine
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 03:35:54 pm » |
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That game was more like this http://z0r.de/?id=22
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 03:36:33 pm » |
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Other than a comment that I was utter and complete fail that game, I think it's noteworthy to mention that bren carriers are indeed counterable...
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EliteGren
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 03:37:20 pm » |
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Sure if you are smokaz or cannonball.
And how many people are that?
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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Baine
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 03:38:51 pm » |
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Sure if you are smokaz or cannonball.
And how many people are that?
Actually all you need is schrecks. And stormies that will ambush them like this http://z0r.de/?id=27
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Killer344
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 03:40:54 pm » |
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rofl..
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If I get shot and it's a gay medic fixing me up, he's not gonna be fondling my balls while he does it. You can't patch a chest wound and suck a cock at the same time.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 03:45:27 pm » |
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Bren carriers are weaker versions of the IHT.
Why people are having so many problems I don't know.
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Draken
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 03:50:14 pm » |
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Sure if you are smokaz or cannonball.
And how many people are that?
Actually all you need is schrecks. And stormies that will ambush them like this http://z0r.de/?id=27lol that site gave me many hard roflzors
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Demon767
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 03:51:33 pm » |
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Bren carriers are weaker versions of the IHT.
Why people are having so many problems I don't know.
axis wasnt used to there own medicine
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2009, 03:54:14 pm » |
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Bren carriers are weaker versions of the IHT.
Why people are having so many problems I don't know.
axis wasnt used to there own medicine Pretty much. Cannonball owns a 3 bren start with a stuh and a single pak. I dont understand why anyone would have trouble with brens. Pak does 75% the hp of a bren in a single hit, plus it fires much faster than the 57mm. Even a bombing run couldnt save the brens from getting owned by a single pak. EDIT: And a strafe.
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2009, 03:59:47 pm » |
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Well yes in this game, but imagine if a good player had microed those brens.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2009, 04:02:30 pm » |
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I like bren carriers better before the armor/hp buff Buff was unintentional - meant for the MMG Bren
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2009, 04:03:03 pm » |
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Well yes in this game, but imagine if a good player had microed those brens.
A good player would do much better with an IHT, which is superior to a bren in every possible way. Plus shreks>>>> piats against moving targets. The piats in a bren couldnt even hit a moving pak.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2009, 04:13:24 pm » |
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I actually liked bren carriers better before this "buff". They didnt cost 4 pop and you used them as tiebreakers or sucide assault, or behind the lines mine-deployment. Whenever a change is followed by a large pack of people spamming or bandwagoning a new unit, there's room for suspicion. They used to require swift response, now you have to alt tab all your AT and go berzerk on them if you want to get rid of them before they have killed off your pak, p4, hetzer etc. Goddamn piats.
The old bren carrier had 220 hp, new one has 300. However, the old bren carrier didnt take 50% more damage from paks and had 50%(yes 50%!) dodge vs shreks, the new one only has 20%. All in all the new bren carrier is weaker vs AT weapons, but obviously you can't kill them with small arms anymore.
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Draken
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2009, 04:13:39 pm » |
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Plus shreks>>>> piats against moving targets. The piats in a bren couldnt even hit a moving pak. +1 With double shreked clown car you can take down 2 piats in brens since theirs agility sux, it's easy to outmicro brens. Only problem can be rrs in closnwcar, but that's exensive for allied player.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2009, 04:15:08 pm » |
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The old bren carrier had 220 hp, new one has 300.
However, the old bren carrier didnt take 50% more damage from paks and had 50%(yes 50%!) dodge vs shreks, the new one only has 20%.
All in all the new bren carrier is weaker vs AT weapons, but obviously you can't kill them with small arms anymore.
It's better against p4's, hetzers. Not sure how it does against stugs. (which has zero chance to not get circled by it)
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2009, 04:17:51 pm » |
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Yes, the new bren carrier is better against tanks.
However. The new one also gets owned so hard by the pak. The old bren carrier had 50% dodge vs paks and died to 2 shots. The new bren carrier only has 20% dodge vs paks and still dies to 2 shots.
So its a tradeoff.
Plus whats with the silly pop increase to 4?
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2009, 05:16:06 pm » |
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It's not really angry, we just goaded you in the launcher to get you to play and it was a gg with no hard feelings It was painful to watch Mysthalin use those bren carriers, he can do better but I think he has been distracted by RL stuff today.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2009, 05:16:53 pm » |
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hah, im the master of goad i knew what you were doing. i just wanted you to work it.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2009, 12:12:45 pm » |
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i don't think clown cars are exzactly overpowered (piats ones) because they are purely dedicated anti tank and you can just shrek, pak them. The only thing I see BS is the clown cars with flamers. The key weakness to a flamer is that they are low health and a clown car just negates that.
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