Tymathee
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« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2009, 09:48:09 pm » |
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so you want this?  that picture makes its way on here every now n then lol |
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"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2009, 09:54:37 pm » |
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Sherman Jumbo
same gun as Sherman Upgun
Speed 4, cannot purchase Overdrive/Flankspeed
Purchasable Dozer and .50 cal
Pershing Armor table (zomg, schreks no hurt from the front), 750 health
All defensive vet
avail 1/1/3
12pop, 450mp, 300fu
Something like that.
well at the moment, the jumbo does have a dozer instead of mine flail so you're on there. Atm it uses the 75mm and is about as fast as a sherman with a bit more health it seems. Permanent upgun, I dunno. The Jumbo didn't use 76mm, it came with the 75mm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_ShermanM4A3E2
"Jumbo" 75 mm
(some 76 mm)
The "Easy Eight" is the 76mm line that came produced with it. Also The (rare) M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo variant had even thicker frontal armor than the Tiger I. Intended for the assault to break out of the Normandy beachhead, it entered combat in August 1944. I want this  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M12_Gun_Motor_Carriageor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M40_GMC:drool: |
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« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2009, 09:55:16 pm » |
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i dont know if it should be less effective against infantry, as its basically the same gun, we can make it slower, turret rotation slower, decreased accuracy while moving but increased accuracy while stationary and better penetration then the normal upgun.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #83 on: July 16, 2009, 10:21:33 pm » |
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i dont know if it should be less effective against infantry, as its basically the same gun, we can make it slower, turret rotation slower, decreased accuracy while moving but increased accuracy while stationary and better penetration then the normal upgun.
Sherman now is 395 250 has a speed of 5.2 , accel 1.6, decel 4 and health 636 (weird number) and has of course sherman armor and sight 35 (norm sight) I say a Sherman Jumbo should be 420 280 with 4.4 speed 1.2 accel and 3 decel with a health of 636 like all shermans and give it churchhill armor (shrecks and paks get an 8% acc bonus vs pershings) and get a tank auro bonus i forget what it's called where it increase the incoming accuracy for units near it? The jumbo was used for assaults and as an infantry support tank so if you give a def bonus near infantry, you give a reason to use it that way. |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #84 on: July 17, 2009, 01:26:14 am » |
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Churchil armor is made of fail, it is much more worth to have pershing armor on it, even with the 8 percent more chance to hit.
Trust me on that one.
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« Reply #85 on: July 17, 2009, 02:39:00 am » |
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Permanent upgun, I dunno. The Jumbo didn't use 76mm, it came with the 75mm. Dude are you blind to what you quote? M4A3E2 "Jumbo" 75 mm (some 76 mm) |
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Akranadas' Greatest Hits, Volume 1: Vet has nothing to do with unit preformance. We are serious about enforcing this, and I am sure you all want to be able to have your balance thought considered by the development team with some biased, sensationalist coming into your thread and ruining it. |
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« Reply #86 on: July 17, 2009, 04:03:45 am » |
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Permanent upgun, I dunno. The Jumbo didn't use 76mm, it came with the 75mm. Dude are you blind to what you quote? M4A3E2 "Jumbo" 75 mm (some 76 mm)no, i just didn't change it when I edited my post, do you always have to point out things like that? Couldn't you just say "Hey, you made a mistake" instead of trying to make me look stupid? |
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« Reply #87 on: July 17, 2009, 04:11:39 am » |
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Smokaz told me to say "hey, you made a mistake, you're stupid".
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« Reply #88 on: July 17, 2009, 04:50:24 am » |
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Why give it an upgun? With pershing/panther armor its the perfect inf support tank.
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« Reply #89 on: July 17, 2009, 06:00:54 am » |
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Why give it an upgun? With pershing/panther armor its the perfect inf support tank.
fine. We'll make one of the panther tiger or kt have 0 penetration vs tanks and see who buys it |
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 My tigers get penetrated by everything. Its really really frustrating.
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« Reply #90 on: July 17, 2009, 06:36:31 am » |
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I would because it would have to be pretty damn awesome against everything that isn t a tank for that cost.
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« Reply #91 on: July 17, 2009, 06:38:55 am » |
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Why give it an upgun? With pershing/panther armor its the perfect inf support tank.
fine. We'll make one of the panther tiger or kt have 0 penetration vs tanks and see who buys it *cough Churchill cough cough* |
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« Reply #92 on: July 17, 2009, 07:13:00 am » |
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i'd rather it keep the 75mm personally as who uses shermans against armor anyway? Panthers would easily flank it heck even p4's could but it'd be great against infantry.
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« Reply #93 on: July 17, 2009, 07:21:20 am » |
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As long as it isn't just a Pershing Lite and is distinct I don't mind having them in the game.
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« Reply #94 on: July 18, 2009, 07:23:50 am » |
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Why give it an upgun? With pershing/panther armor its the perfect inf support tank.
fine. We'll make one of the panther tiger or kt have 0 penetration vs tanks and see who buys it *cough Churchill cough cough* Oh look now nobody uses one without the upgun. |
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Malevolence
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« Reply #95 on: July 18, 2009, 08:01:03 am » |
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Stubby sherman doesn't have penetration vs tanks, neither does upgun churchill.
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« Reply #96 on: July 18, 2009, 08:46:39 am » |
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idk why people say upgun doesn't kill infantry as good i actually prefer it, better vs tanks adn just as good vs infantry
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« Reply #97 on: July 18, 2009, 09:10:43 am » |
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upgun churchill has pwnsome penetration  |
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« Reply #98 on: July 18, 2009, 09:34:24 am » |
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No...no it doesn't. Its like a 40% chance to penetrate a p4....in good conditions.
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« Reply #99 on: July 18, 2009, 02:11:51 pm » |
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So we too can be like OMG and add new units that really aren't needed in?
When does the madness stop.
I like how this guy is trying to toss around accusations and general negativity to get his way, instead of just stating facts and trying to make a case. Conspiracy Theorist? |
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