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[Sach]

This is a 1v1 I had with Pak. Now I understand that balance shouldn't be based around 1v1s and its partly the fault of the map but this game left me scratching my head and thinking 'I literally cannot beat this,' which isn't something I think very often as I am generally a decent player.

The only thing I could think would be overwhelming armour spam but remember the FJs have 2 fausts each so even then its gonna be pretty tough.

Look how quickly rifles die to these dudes, its insane.

http://www.filefront.com/14056893/EuropeInRuinsBattle.sga

ps. ignore my shit start

http://www.filefront.com/14056887/uncounterable.rec

[crimsonrabbit]

You should try to first reorganize your method of flanking.
That is all I have to say about that.

[pernik]

lol, wait when half of those suckers gets Pschreck... it will make you your day (not like AB that can't have stupid BAR okok OT, I know...) pfff

gonna watch now

[Sach]

You should try to first reorganize your method of flanking.
That is all I have to say about that.

slightly bizzarre contribution considering he used no support teams and no hard points. What exactly would you flank?

[Two]

1 vet 1 squad of paks falls stood in no cover and took out 4 barred riflemen in green cover short/med range without losing a man against me :/

[LeoPhone]

qft?

[Mgallun74]

1 vet 1 squad of paks falls stood in no cover and took out 4 barred riflemen in green cover short/med range without losing a man against me :/

kinda gay, maybe the fg42 is too good?

[BradAnderson]

Keep in mind he has crete vetrens!

[Two]

Keep in mind he has crete vetrens!

yet he still should have lost atleast 2 men imo :p

[Mgallun74]

Keep in mind he has crete vetrens!

yet he still should have lost atleast 2 men imo :p

ya, 1 4 man squad vs 4 6 man squads with bars?  8 bars?  something doesnt seem right there.. even KCH would get beat to shit against that.  fg42 op?

[pernik]

OK, I watched the replay.

/rage_mode on

AND I MUST ROLL ON THE FLOOR HOW FUNNY THIS IS: They don't give BARs to Airborne because it would be OP or what, but THIS ain't OP (in terms of the AB case)? How? Seriously, I'm asking you HOW?! FJs in no cover totally raping other infantry in green cover (Triage nearby). I'm not really sure Airborne could be raping like that with BARs (and absolutely not without SF) because as I've said before players are gonna find every little piece of cover to cover their FJs. Even if FJs would be in no cover, they'd still be beating crap outta you till you pin 'em completely. Not to mention the "crazy" bonusses FJs can get. And now they can even purchase Panzerschreck. If the Fire Up is the biggest problem, replace it with sprint (because those bad guys somehow can have it). Or remove it completely and give them those BARs for free. I don't know, just do something! My head will probably explodes in a few seconds AAARGH!

/rage_mode off

I'm BEGGING you devs, GIVE MY PARATROOPERS BARS, PLEASE!

[EliteGren]

Give Grenadiers Mp44 plz.

[Mgallun74]

OK, I watched the replay.

/rage_mode on

AND I MUST ROLL ON THE FLOOR HOW FUNNY THIS IS: They don't give BARs to Airborne because it would be OP or what, but THIS ain't OP (in terms of the AB case)? How? Seriously, I'm asking you HOW?! FJs in no cover totally raping other infantry in green cover (Triage nearby). I'm not really sure Airborne could be raping like that with BARs (and absolutely not without SF) because as I've said before players are gonna find every little piece of cover to cover their FJs. Even if FJs would be in no cover, they'd still be beating crap outta you till you pin 'em completely. Not to mention the "crazy" bonusses FJs can get. And now they can even purchase Panzerschreck. If the Fire Up is the biggest problem, replace it with sprint (because those bad guys somehow can have it). Or remove it completely and give them those BARs for free. I don't know, just do something! My head will probably explodes in a few seconds AAARGH!

/rage_mode off

I'm BEGGING you devs, GIVE MY PARATROOPERS BARS, PLEASE!

maybe the airborne can get the carbine treatment from infantry doc... thats why airborne has issues with infantry, it doesnt have the proper fire rate of the actually carbine.

[Mukip]

Airborne are fine at anti-infantry, they have good hp and several doctrine buffs meaning even though their carbine sucks, they can win a firefight through attrition and focus fire.  I dropped 4 ABs behind someone yesterday and suppressed a squad of assault grens with carbines 

[Blitzen]

You need to remember that falls are only 4 men, can't fire up, and don't have zooks. 

[pernik]

You need to remember that falls are only 4 men, can't fire up, and don't have zooks. 

They are 4 men but still seem kinda tough. They got Sprint (does that even have Exhaustion?), which isn't the same as Fire Up but it means "get outta here quickly!" too and no, they don't have 'zooks, they don't even have RRs - they got Panzerschreck. hehe.

[Raio]

looooool
 EIR goes fucked up so hARD

EIR is NOT about skill, big disillusion for me.
Shame for players like PAK. they r fa***  poor childs.





 devs, before u delete my post, PLEASE, try to think again about blobin elite inf.
  ....  maybe time to end my career in EIR  

[wildsolus]

You need to remember that falls are only 4 men, can't fire up, and don't have zooks. 

nope, instead they have one of the best guns in the came, can sprint, can paradrop and can cloak.

and they come in the best doctrine for PE...and the most popular reinforcement doctrine.

oh, and shreks.

[Pak88mm]

looooool
 EIR goes fucked up so hARD

EIR is NOT about skill, big disillusion for me.
Shame for players like PAK. they r fa***  poor childs.





 devs, before u delete my post, PLEASE, try to think again about blobin elite inf.
  ....  maybe time to end my career in EIR  

i told Sach thats the 1st time ever i had that many falls on the field. In a team game it would be impossible for me to field such a force. I would have to get counters for AT mgs and mortars. I still feel Bars can beat falls once you hit the " I win" suppression fire.

[CrazyWR]

You need to remember that falls are only 4 men, can't fire up, and don't have zooks. 

They are 4 men but still seem kinda tough. They got Sprint (does that even have Exhaustion?), which isn't the same as Fire Up but it means "get outta here quickly!" too and no, they don't have 'zooks, they don't even have RRs - they got Panzerschreck. hehe.

They aren't tough.  At all.  They die very quickly...you just have to live long enough to shoot them...