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Smokaz
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Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 04:11:39 pm »
Airborne (1.0)
-Vet1 Received damage 0.80
-Vet2 Accuracy 1.15, Received Accuracy 0.9, Fireup -30s
-Vet3 Health 1.1, Cover ability*, Damage 1.2, Fireup -30s
Vet needs to go down to 0.85, as everyone else gets.
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=8543.0
Stormtroopers (0.8 )
-Vet1 Received damage 0.85
Knights Cross Holders (0.7)
-Vet1 Received damage 0.857
Riflemen (1.6)
-Vet1 Received damage 0.85
Rangers (0.8 )
-Vet1 Received damage 0.85
British
Sappers (1.8 )
-Vet1 Received damage 0.85
Panzer Elite
Panzer Grenadiers (1.6)
-Vet1 Received damage 0.85
Tank Buster Infantry (1.2)
-Vet1 Received damage 0.85
And the list goes on.
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Mukip
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 04:13:44 pm »
Yeah why not.
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 04:17:08 pm »
Maybe, while you are at it, fix the exp gain to 0.8 aswell, like all other elite infantry? (Falls too then.)
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Malevolence
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 04:20:19 pm »
Airborne spam is whack, yo.
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Two
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 04:21:16 pm »
Whats this 1.8 1.6 1.7 crap next to units?
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Mukip
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 04:30:10 pm »
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Airborne spam is whack, yo.
Airborne spam sucks, but a pair of Airborne RR squads on the field supporting other units on the other hand is great. They don't do crazy damage like Ranger SMGs or Storm Trooper double shrecks, but they are fairly tough and do good damage consistently over time so they are somewhere inbetween normal infantry and elite infantry. Taking 6-9 Airborne is no more spam than taking 8 Grenadiers and giving half of them shrecks, they are pretty much meant to be used in significant numbers in an
Airborne
company. It's a shame their availability is so low really, because it just means they are all RR squads instead of just some of them. If their availability was 10-12 you could take your 4-6 RRs and then have enough Airborne left to do the whole paradropping thing along with the T3 that adds airborne rifles. Currently it plays more like an infantry company with RR's replacing zooks.
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jackmccrack
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 04:34:17 pm »
Quote from: Two on July 18, 2009, 04:21:16 pm
Whats this 1.8 1.6 1.7 crap next to units?
Rate at which they gain vet, u noob.
For instance, if a Volksgrenadier is worth 2xp, multiply it by that "crap" number next to the unit to see how much xp the unit gains.
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Two
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 04:35:15 pm »
Quote from: jackmccrack on July 18, 2009, 04:34:17 pm
Quote from: Two on July 18, 2009, 04:21:16 pm
Whats this 1.8 1.6 1.7 crap next to units?
Rate at which they gain vet, u noob.
For instance, if a Volksgrenadier is worth 2xp, multiply it by that "crap" number next to the unit to see how much xp the unit gains.
That seems silly, whats wrong with just gaining as you kill
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jackmccrack
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 04:37:24 pm »
So, assuming that it is 2xp per Volk, if a Ranger (0.8 ) squad wipes out a Volks squad, it is (2xp*5)(0.8 ) = 8xp
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That seems silly, whats wrong with just gaining as you kill Sad
Some units have an easier time killing things and some units have different vet bonuses. Those units that become insanely strong with vet will have a lower xp modifier.
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Smokaz
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 04:58:11 pm »
No that value just controls the level requirements, meaning airborne have slightly lower vet requirments than the units with 1.0.
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AmPM
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 05:01:33 pm »
Actually Smokaz, the numbers you see as vet levels are really dependent on that multiplier. =)
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Lai
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 05:01:50 pm »
You forgot to add ", noob." at the end of your sentence there, smoky.
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Sharpshooter824
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 05:10:19 pm »
Does falls and AB damaged recieved have anything to do with they are both paratrooper units making them require more durability to be of any effect?
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 05:12:46 pm »
Quote from: Sharpshooter824 on July 18, 2009, 05:10:19 pm
Does falls and AB damaged recieved have anything to do with they are both paratrooper units making them require more durability to be of any effect?
Airborne has a special armor type that makes them dodge while moving.
Falls have the same armor as PGs.
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 05:13:48 pm »
aren't AB more susceptible to flames though?
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gamesguy2
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 06:33:25 pm »
Quote from: Sharpshooter824 on July 18, 2009, 05:13:48 pm
aren't AB more susceptible to flames though?
No, just the opposite, AB is the toughest infantry in the game against all weapons, including flamers.
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Tymathee
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 07:17:11 pm »
Quote from: gamesguy2 on July 18, 2009, 06:33:25 pm
Quote from: Sharpshooter824 on July 18, 2009, 05:13:48 pm
aren't AB more susceptible to flames though?
No, just the opposite, AB is the toughest infantry in the game against all weapons, including flamers.
AB is just as susceptible for flames as all infantry.
http://coh-stats.com/Weapon:Flammenwerfer_42
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Tymathee
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 07:25:30 pm »
The regular vet level is 10/40/80, you take whatever the vet level is for that unit, say if it's 0.8 and you multiply it against 10/40/80 and you get the vet requirement for that unit.
So, if it's 1.6 you go
1.6 x 10-10 and you get 6xp for vet 1
for vet 2 1.6 x 40 - 40 and you get 24
for vet 3 1.6 x 80 - 80 and you get 48
at least i think...cuz it's really 6 25 50. I think they just rounded it out.
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Illegal_Carrot
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 09:11:55 pm »
Quote from: Tymathee on July 18, 2009, 07:17:11 pm
Quote from: gamesguy2 on July 18, 2009, 06:33:25 pm
Quote from: Sharpshooter824 on July 18, 2009, 05:13:48 pm
aren't AB more susceptible to flames though?
No, just the opposite, AB is the toughest infantry in the game against all weapons, including flamers.
AB is just as susceptible for flames as all infantry.
http://coh-stats.com/Weapon:Flammenwerfer_42
Note that the Flamethrower does 20-25% more damage to most infantry (but not AB), and in addition, AB's doc unlock, Hard n Fast, reduces the accuracy of all weapons (including Flamers, I'd assume) by 15%.
So I'd have to agree that AB are the most resilient inf vs Flamers.
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spinn72
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Re: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack
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July 18, 2009, 09:31:35 pm »
flamers actually do most of their damage by cover, green cover or garrison cover give like 1.5x bonuses to damage and accuracy, so its pretty crazy.
Airborne are tough infantry that can penetrate pretty well and also do quite a bit of damage even without RRs.
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