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Author Topic: Airborne Veterancy Level 1 is slightly out of wack  (Read 10723 times)
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CryingWolf Offline
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2009, 12:39:13 am »

flamers actually do most of their damage by cover, green cover or garrison cover give like 1.5x bonuses to damage and accuracy, so its pretty crazy.
To expand on that, they do a LOT LESS damage if you go on to roads (red cover).
Basically against flames, The Higher the cover the worse of you are, the lower the cover the more burning you can take Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2009, 12:43:03 am »

aren't AB more susceptible to flames though?

No, just the opposite, AB is the toughest infantry in the game against all weapons, including flamers.

AB is just as susceptible for flames as all infantry.

http://coh-stats.com/Weapon:Flammenwerfer_42

You just confirmed what I said tym.   Airborne has 70hp*6=420 hp in the entire squad and no damage penalties vs flame.  Therefore its the toughest infantry unit in the game, against flamers and all weapons.

Commandos are also 70hp each/6 men, so commandos are as tough as airborne against flamers.  However they dont have the dodge bonus, so they are not as tough against other weapons.
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2009, 02:52:22 am »

The number besides the name is the exp gain you noobs, as stated in my post, noobs.


0.8 means they only get 0.8 x exp for a kill , noobs.
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BigDick
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2009, 03:26:00 am »

its not

round(10/(number next to unit name)) = xp requirements for vet1

noob

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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2009, 03:55:06 am »

aren't AB more susceptible to flames though?

No, just the opposite, AB is the toughest infantry in the game against all weapons, including flamers.

AB is just as susceptible for flames as all infantry.

http://coh-stats.com/Weapon:Flammenwerfer_42

You just confirmed what I said tym.   Airborne has 70hp*6=420 hp in the entire squad and no damage penalties vs flame.  Therefore its the toughest infantry unit in the game, against flamers and all weapons.

Commandos are also 70hp each/6 men, so commandos are as tough as airborne against flamers.  However they dont have the dodge bonus, so they are not as tough against other weapons.

Rifles dont get damage penalties vs flame either and they're 55 each. Just because they don't get damage penalties doesn't mean that they're so tough against flames.

What about Grens at 80 hp a man? and folks at 60 hp a man? Luftwafe at 55 per man? All have the same armor as Airborne. If anything, Grens are tougher to kill than Airbrone, they get 10 more HP.
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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2009, 04:26:34 am »

Actualy tym, grenadiers have tp_infantry armor type, airborne have tp_infantry_airborne
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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2009, 08:43:34 am »

Anyway.

The xp for airborne is fine, they may have better armour then the others, but they are nowhere near as effective at downing men as the rest of that list. (unless you get nades off).
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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2009, 10:07:50 am »

Actualy tym, grenadiers have tp_infantry armor type, airborne have tp_infantry_airborne

I know, but Airborne and Grens have the same stats against flamers thats why I mentioned it. 1 acc 1 mov 1 dmg
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Baine Offline
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« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2009, 10:17:29 am »

Anyway.

The xp for airborne is fine, they may have better armour then the others, but they are nowhere near as effective at downing men as the rest of that list. (unless you get nades off).

Everyone knows that their strength is AT, and they outperform everyone else with it.
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Aggamemnon Offline
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« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2009, 10:58:54 am »

Not necessarily, never seen AB alpha strike like stormies do.  Wink
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Baine Offline
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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2009, 12:25:44 pm »

Not necessarily, never seen AB alpha strike like stormies do.  Wink

Well then you look always away when they charge head on against tanks and win  Shocked Roll Eyes
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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2009, 12:26:18 pm »

Sounds like shrecks lolol, nothing but brute force
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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2009, 01:38:27 pm »

Riflemen (1.6)
Panzer Grenadiers (1.6)

Hold on a second.
Why do riflemen have the same xp modifier as pgrens?
Something is fishy.
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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2009, 01:49:13 pm »

Cause Panzergrens are PE's standard infantry.
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Lemures Offline
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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2009, 01:57:33 pm »

Not necessarily, never seen AB alpha strike like stormies do.  Wink

Well then you look always away when they charge head on against tanks and win  Shocked Roll Eyes

Yeah but it usually takes twice as many AB (4 squads) or twice as many shots, plus you can see them coming!
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gamesguy2 Offline
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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2009, 04:50:42 pm »

aren't AB more susceptible to flames though?

No, just the opposite, AB is the toughest infantry in the game against all weapons, including flamers.

AB is just as susceptible for flames as all infantry.

http://coh-stats.com/Weapon:Flammenwerfer_42

You just confirmed what I said tym.   Airborne has 70hp*6=420 hp in the entire squad and no damage penalties vs flame.  Therefore its the toughest infantry unit in the game, against flamers and all weapons.

Commandos are also 70hp each/6 men, so commandos are as tough as airborne against flamers.  However they dont have the dodge bonus, so they are not as tough against other weapons.

Rifles dont get damage penalties vs flame either and they're 55 each. Just because they don't get damage penalties doesn't mean that they're so tough against flames.

What about Grens at 80 hp a man? and folks at 60 hp a man? Luftwafe at 55 per man? All have the same armor as Airborne. If anything, Grens are tougher to kill than Airbrone, they get 10 more HP.

...

Are you listening to yourself?

You just said that a unit with less hp is as tough as a unit with more hp.

Grens have 80 hp a man, but there are only 4 of them, while airborne is a 6 man squad.     Total squad hp of airborne is 6*70=420 hp.  No other infantry squad in the game bar commandos and stormtroopers come close.   Commandos have slightly less hp, but inferior armor type versus most other weapons, while storms have 380 hp total but no airborne dodge bonus.
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CommanderHolt Offline
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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2009, 04:58:11 pm »

Commandos have 390 Health unless EiRR did some tweaking with them....

http://coh-stats.com/Infantry:Commandos
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gamesguy2 Offline
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« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2009, 04:59:08 pm »

Commandos have 390 Health unless EiRR did some tweaking with them....

http://coh-stats.com/Infantry:Commandos

Oh my bad, thought they were 70 hp a each.

Still doesnt really change much.
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