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« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2009, 11:31:56 am » |
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I try stug
Stug is bad
Stug need buff
Stug only 8 pop is good.
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 My tigers get penetrated by everything. Its really really frustrating.
Your tiger is a whore |
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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2009, 04:00:20 pm » |
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I try stug
Stug is bad
Stug need buff
Stug only 8 pop is good.
I don't think you heard me right, it used to be 4 pop. 8 is too much. Is it really 3 times as powerful as an AT halftrack? I'd be happy with 6 if people think 4 is too low. |
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TOV units = intentionally OP marketing gimmicks
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AmPM
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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2009, 04:12:56 pm » |
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always thought the panzer 3 chassis was rather sporty, another of relics iam high model jobs?
The StuG has 8 runners which screams "I am a PIV chassis!" The Relic StuH is also based on a PIV chassis, so it doesn't even exist. STuG IV. Anyway, yes, STuG needs love. If you mean the STuH then yes, its a fictional tank in this game. |
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« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2009, 04:17:04 pm » |
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always thought the panzer 3 chassis was rather sporty, another of relics iam high model jobs?
The StuG has 8 runners which screams "I am a PIV chassis!" The Relic StuH is also based on a PIV chassis, so it doesn't even exist. STuG IV, please at least know what you are talking about. Anyway, yes, STuG needs love. If you mean the STuH then yes, its a fictional tank in this game. who me? |
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AmPM
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« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2009, 04:18:10 pm » |
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Damnit, now I want Panzer IIIs, I have also always loved their chassis!! CURSE YOU!!!
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« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2009, 04:19:49 pm » |
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Damnit, now I want Panzer IIIs, I have also always loved their chassis!! CURSE YOU!!!
Yea, J1, L are my favs... ya i know, they werent the best lalalala, but there where to me the best looking german tanks. |
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Malevolence
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« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2009, 04:21:00 pm » |
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Pz.III is a good tank for its time...
But its time is not 1944.
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Akranadas' Greatest Hits, Volume 1: Vet has nothing to do with unit preformance. We are serious about enforcing this, and I am sure you all want to be able to have your balance thought considered by the development team with some biased, sensationalist coming into your thread and ruining it. |
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AmPM
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« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2009, 04:21:07 pm » |
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Where are my Pz III flamethrower tanks!!
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| Mgallun74
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« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2009, 04:22:28 pm » |
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isnt the panzer4ist supposed to be the 3n?  seems maybe relic was lazy, and didnt want to build a panzer3 chassis model, so just made up some panzer4 variants for stuff...? |
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AmPM
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« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2009, 04:29:59 pm » |
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Neither one really makes sense. The Pz III was used as an escort vehicle for Tigers if at all, maybe as a command vehicle here and there.
I have no idea why they put a Pz IV D into the game....it just makes no sense.
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Malevolence
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« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2009, 04:49:25 pm » |
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isnt the panzer4ist supposed to be the 3n? seems maybe relic was lazy, and didnt want to build a panzer3 chassis model, so just made up some panzer4 variants for stuff...? Well, if any Panzer IV A-F1's still existed, it would probably be used as an infantry support tank or be converted to something more useful. |
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« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2009, 04:51:08 pm » |
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Makes even less sense that the Panzer elite have less actual panzers than the Wehrmacht  |
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« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2009, 07:23:56 pm » |
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Makes even less sense that the Panzer elite have less actual panzers than the Wehrmacht It makes perfect sense. Panzer isn't even a noun. German tanks were panzer-kampf-wagens. Panzer infantry just means they have armored transport. |
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« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2009, 08:38:25 pm » |
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Give the stug a mine clearing thing like the churhill purchable upgrade. So it can crush hedges est to allow it to supprise allied armour and prevent the allied armour from using the hedges as cover to 'confuse' the poor stug driver.
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| Sixpack
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« Reply #54 on: August 26, 2009, 03:39:51 am » |
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Makes even less sense that the Panzer elite have less actual panzers than the Wehrmacht It makes perfect sense. Panzer isn't even a noun. German tanks were panzer-kampf-wagens. Panzer infantry just means they have armored transport. It is ge-panzerte-infanterie (or exactly: ge-panzerte-panzergrenadiere). Or more precisly for what the panzer elite represents in this game: ge-panzerte-aufklärer (armored reconnaissance). Panzer just means Tank. Panzer infanterie does not exist (the first thing springing to my mind would be mechs, while ge-panzerte-infanterie could just mean robocop...). |
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« Reply #55 on: August 26, 2009, 04:44:13 am » |
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Panzer only = tank if you're a naive English Tommy shouting "oh look mate, it's a panzer!" It is an adjective and can describe motorized infantry divisions, armored (tank) battalions, or even medieval knights wearing chain-maille.
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #56 on: August 26, 2009, 04:49:40 am » |
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Let's get back on topic guys.
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« Reply #57 on: August 26, 2009, 05:06:57 am » |
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If you mean the STuH then yes, its a fictional tank in this game.
Not according to this excellent 5 part documentory on Axis Assault Guns and Tank Hunters. See this video at around 8:25, where they show the StuG armed with a 10.5 Howitzer gun to help the grenadiers fight infantry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7uJcqfhF-0&NR=1 |
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AmPM
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« Reply #58 on: August 26, 2009, 05:10:46 am » |
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IT is in CoH, because in CoH its based on the PIV chassis, not the PIII chassis like it actually was. So the CoH version is a fictional tank.
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« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2009, 05:31:00 am » |
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IT is in CoH, because in CoH its based on the PIV chassis, not the PIII chassis like it actually was. So the CoH version is a fictional tank.
Thanks bro, I'm sick of people glancing over and slashing my logic to pieces without understanding it  |
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