Unkn0wn
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2009, 04:42:38 am » |
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The doctrine rework will probably make you happy then  |
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Illegal_Carrot
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2009, 05:06:58 am » |
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Well, I suppose I'll say a few things..
I agree that Crocs should get a buff, but I think giving them P4 Skirts (in addition to the 10% health gain?) is too much. Make them good, but don't go overboard. I've always felt that the Croc should be a niche unit, not something every Ally is guaranteed to take.
The new Tank Shock seems even worse, as the Grens still got Pinned very quickly, but now the Church doesn't even have to get so close to do it.
I'm fine with the Air Burst rounds, for the most part. Is it an anti-infantry ability, or is it the Overwatch Barrage form vCoH?
Not trying to start a balance debate or anything, just my opinion on what I saw.
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2009, 05:14:16 am » |
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The new Tank Shock seems even worse, as the Grens still got Pinned very quickly, but now the Church doesn't even have to get so close to do it.
I'm fine with the Air Burst rounds, for the most part. Is it an anti-infantry ability, or is it the Overwatch Barrage form vCoH?
Not trying to start a balance debate or anything, just my opinion on what I saw.
I actually think the new tank shock has just about got it right. You HAVE to face your coaxial machine gun towards the enemy to pin them at medium range. This means no more instapin 360 degrees. in most combat situations however you could argue like you did since most of the time the infantry will be in front of the churchill. Quick Question, Does Churchill Croc get anything now since tank shock affects the Coaxial Machine gun?  ? |
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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2009, 05:51:13 am » |
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The churchill tank shock update is very nice. Even if it can now pin from far away, now the churchill can't ram into a bunch of AT infantry and simply pin them down.
I'm curious to see what update the axis are getting!
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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2009, 06:04:52 am » |
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i always LOL when i use tankshock its the counter to its counter   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4cp1c0jpOEand the new will change not much like it looks, you can still drive to infantry and almost insta suppress them..... |
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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2009, 06:18:41 am » |
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Will magnetic mines ever be given to tankbuster doctrine like planned before? I really really wanted that ability  |
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2009, 07:19:42 am » |
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does the churhil upgun has tank shock too?
if the standart churhil is the only one with tankshock, youll see alot less of em=better
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sgMisten
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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2009, 07:29:57 am » |
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Will magnetic mines ever be given to tankbuster doctrine like planned before? I really really wanted that ability That's a thought hmm... what if AT grenades acted like stickies without the criticals o.O |
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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2009, 08:01:27 am » |
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Croc Skirts will be awesome and give this unit a better role again, dont listen to the naysayers! Broom!
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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2009, 10:32:19 am » |
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Just to let you all know before you watch the video: everything you see is still work in progress and this video isn't to be considered fact until 007 D is out. We're constantly changing numbers and other variables within 007 D, so what you see in the video may not be what comes in 007 D. Also please do not have balance Arguments based on this video; its silly to try. Europe in Ruins Patch 007D PreviewDude, the balance is to be pro allies at the moment, before implementing even better units for the allies, change some things , that need adjustements, like Recoilles of the ABs . |
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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2009, 11:19:45 am » |
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Also please do not have balance Arguments based on this video; its silly to try.
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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2009, 11:27:19 am » |
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Also please do not have balance Arguments based on this video; its silly to try.
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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2009, 03:03:21 pm » |
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It’s nice to see an artillery doctrinal upgrade that isn’t an offmap but instead something that adds additional functionality to an onmap unit. Great job devs. IMHO all artillery should be like this. |
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| Ununoctium
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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2009, 03:24:04 pm » |
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um... doesn't the croc bullzoder already do that? like 10% or something?
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Illegal_Carrot
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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2009, 04:46:39 pm » |
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um... doesn't the croc bullzoder already do that? like 10% or something?
Currently, it gives the Croc 10% more health, bumping it up to 700HP. But in the video, he mentioned it giving P4-like Skirts (25% less damage and pen). While the numbers might still be changed around, it looks like it's going to give better benefits than it does currently, in any case. So.. Do Axis get anything in 7D? |
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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2009, 05:08:42 pm » |
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ya...tank shock doesn't rape everything in a 360 degree circle around the tank instantly. Instead its just the squads in front of the tank...
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2009, 06:02:05 pm » |
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So.. Do Axis get anything in 7D? Don't be silly, Devs don't play Axis.  |
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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2009, 06:18:33 pm » |
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Some of you focus on bitching too much.
OP says this is just a taste of what's to come. I'm sure if people behave in this thread we will see some information on anything they are doing for axis in good time.
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« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2009, 07:29:53 pm » |
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So.. Do Axis get anything in 7D? Don't be silly, Devs don't play Axis. "And remember son, if you wet the bed don't blame the Boogydev. It's your fault and you're gonna clean up your mess." |
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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2009, 05:50:49 am » |
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I know nothing is set in stone but I would realy like to know why people think the Croc needs an improved survivability against hh at?
Most players with a little experiance just run it into the schreck squad chasing around the schrecker till they all are dead or run off and there are not a lot of doubleschrecks running around.
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