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[LeoPhone]

make it just like in normal coh, you cant buy a p4 IST if you have a hochkiss, you cant have staghounds if you have a CCT, etc.

it makes sense, they did it in vcoh for a reason.

[Sharpshooter824]

Uhhh.... wehr gets a new tiger skin, and a better version of a bike and an OP version of the stug (Gwagon)

PE gets a new kettenkrad and a crappy hotchkiss..

i dont see the point in this leo

[LeoPhone]

this makes the reward units more rare, and thats good since theyre not all that balanced.

for instance you wont see retarded stags being buffed by CCTs anymore.

and the new tiger skin isnt even in the game, and the bikes have been swapped between PE and wehr.

[RikiRude]

Tiger is doctrine specific
Gwagon is doctrine specific
T-17 is doctrine specific
Roo is doctrine specific

So pretty much each faction has a ToV doctrine specific unit.

[Killer344]

Just wait until the warmap is done.

[LeoPhone]

Tiger is doctrine specific
Gwagon is doctrine specific
T-17 is doctrine specific
Roo is doctrine specific

So pretty much each faction has a ToV doctrine specific unit.

ok, i forgot those.
so the doctrine specific units are fine, but the staghound, CCT, hochkiss, P4IST, m18, m10, kangaroo, cromwell and all the bikes arent right.

[BigDick]

so you suggest basically to make half of the units of unit pool doctrine specific? to achieve what? fixing op units? sounds paradox and failed already for the T17

i would say in that case the T17 would be more balanced in any doctrine except armor because it cannot backcap

i wouldn't limit the unit pool

[Akranadas]

How about we balance them?

[LeoPhone]

just do ANYTHING!

theyve been around now for quite a while, and its clear the stag and t17 are way too strong.
and after a ton of patches, there has been some changes, but no massive changes to them (while their counter, the faust did become useless)

i dont know what the devs want, please just do something
but even if they are balanced, i still dont like them. its the same as when brits and pe were introduced(in vcoh). where is our good old game, that was actually good. without any gimmicks

[Akranadas]

How do you suggest we balance them? Redo the units?

[LeoPhone]

il list all the things i sayd:

- change modifiers of the t17/stag vs fausts(alot), schrecks(a bit) and pumas(alot).

i dont know how strong hochkisses are against them, but the hochkiss should have no trouble taking them out(since hoch sucks vs inf) hoch shouldnt need the upgun to win, upgun is to make em effective vs tanks.


- if you buy a t17, you cant buy m8s and if you buy a stag, you cant buy CCTs (same  the other way)

- increase price and repair price (for stag)

- only get the sandbag upgrade when you vet up

[TodlichPanther]

only change id like to see really is the bullet time dodge shit toned down, you shouldn't be able to charge your hard counters and survive, thats jsut wrong.  And a slight increase in munition cost for the mg/phos upgrades.