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[Demon767]

when i have that last men of the pak crew i always charge them at the enemy because they take far to long to walk half the map, easier for me to lose the last men than take 2 minutes to walk him back, now in this sence, can i do that?, ive played my fair share of couple hundred as WM and i rarely, very rarely, see them kill anyone, so thats just a massive myth him being a machine at killing.

[Killer344]

They have a small chance to crit any kind of infantry regardless of their HP, and:

Addition:

Exploitable gameplay mechanics-
Any action that is not intended mechanics of the *CORE* vCOH is also considered an exploit for EIR.

Any viewed replay showing these exploits, will result in a week suspension for the user(s).
A second abuse, will result in a ban.


A list of exploits will be listed within this post.

• Using abilities from buildings that are not usually usable from within
• Building and not finishing tank traps, sandbags etc
• Resource gaining/tricking using any exploit method
• Continuously recrewing an artillery piece to negate cooldown timers
• 57mm 'semi-auto' fire
• Using detached pak crew members for scouting/combat

Out of Game:

A list of intolerable behaviour will be listed within this post.

• Using 'Smurf'/Additional Accounts to grief/lock players from playing Europe In Ruins

[Mysthalin]

rarely, very rarely, see them kill anyone, so thats just a massive myth him being a machine at killing.

Covering up with a lie isn't exactly the best way to get yourself out of a jam. The rules clearly state that

Using detached pak crew members for scouting/combat

is forbidden.

The pak crew guys have a luger, which fires about once a second. If your luger guy survives for 7 seconds of combat at short range, he will hit with 4 shots. Out of those 4, with the 15 percent chance of crit at green health, you are more likely to kill someone than not.
So in your couple hundred games, if you lost a pak, leaving one guy on the field each game, you've killed roughly 120 men with the exploit.

[RikiRude]

it sucks, because you want to retreat, or your gun gets destroyed, and then the dudes just sit there. as axis it sucks if you want to keep a vetted ATG. as allies it sucks because he rapes your dudes sometimes, and it sucks as axis again because you have this unit taking up pop cap that can't really do anything.

[Mysthalin]

At least the axis atg 3rd guy doesn't literaly crawl everywhere -.-

[fallensoldier7]

I've seen 1 single pak crew solo 2 full health recon squads.

[Smokaz]

Halt!

As a ex-con abuser of this bug, I know how it works. Never retreat your Pak in cloaked mode, and this usually wont happen. Retreat it in cloaked mode, and it always happens.

[Demon767]

no mystalin, that is a gross over statement

[Mysthalin]

no mystalin, that is a gross over statement

The RGDs lie about one thing, and one thing only : T17 penetration against WM HT armor.
Nothing else, though.

[shockcoil]

I saw a decrewed 3 man pak crew beat 2 recon tommies with mark target and zeal. I shit you not

[Smokaz]

I pooned 2 ab squads with a pak crew once

But its a exploit, so dont do it. Just put your pak in decloak mode before you retreat it

[Two]

I pooned 2 ab squads with a pak crew once

But its a exploit, so dont do it. Just put your pak in decloak mode before you retreat it

I even tried to nade the pak crew with those ab but you just kept gunning down the guy about to throw -.-

[Wnb 1337]

I see this happen alot and as i have got used to it, as said before i just usualy kamikaze em.. Its just shit to waste your pop just cos the last lazy Hans guy is to bored to retreat when told to. Toggling the retreat? Will act as any vehicle, meaning you have to be next to the retreating area in order for it to work.. Gah i was lucky when my vet 3 pak crew member got home safe and sound as someone kind enough let me take it there without bs vethunt. Thanks for that (whoever you are/were)

Anyway i havent seen them being used in action so i cannot say if they are what ppl say they are. Tho i have only seen one guy get killed from the luger shot, yet that didnt impress me as i thought that it was a random crit..

As smokaz stated, i think that this bug comes mainly from retreating in camo which is basicly not a good idea anyway.

[501PIR]

No. It occurs when you lose 2 men in cloak mode as well.

[CrazyWR]

look, its really simple, if you lose a pak thats cloaked, uncloak the guy, hit y to toggle offmap retreat, and walk him off.  Any other choice is exploiting.  Don't do it.

[Two]

Walking off is time consuming, just leave him there cloaked and pretend you forgot he was there when the enemy walks by and gets ninjapwned by him.

[IIPraeToriaNII]

are they going to fix it or what?

[Malevolence]

I've been told after my third guy got left as the others were attacking the pak that it was an exploit. They were the ones who shot the other two guys off of it and it's not like they let me run it away or anything.

TBH just recode pak to give kar98 to third guy and let people do what they want with the lil buggers.

[RikiRude]

I've been told after my third guy got left as the others were attacking the pak that it was an exploit. They were the ones who shot the other two guys off of it and it's not like they let me run it away or anything.

TBH just recode pak to give kar98 to third guy and let people do what they want with the lil buggers.

agreed believe it or not, those luger guys are way OP compared to garand AT crews. which further provers axis support weapon superiority.

[Mysthalin]

There's still their invisibility, mal.