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[Mgallun74]

America wasn't the only nation bombed by Japan. We had more bombs dropped on our homeland/mainland then the Americans ever did

China? Australia?

[Groundfire]

annndd the one-upsmenship begins...

This is bout Pearl Harbor. Im speaking generally now, Comon, if you dont got anything nice to say, dont say anything.

Lets not turn this into another Nov. 11th End of WW1 thread that devolved into an "Amerika is da best, no Europez is da best!" bullshit.

[Piotrskivich]

Us Americans didn't pownz the Japanese for a long time. At the beginning their fighter pilots were much more skilled than ours.

I read a true book written by a Japanese Ace and at the start they tore up the American squadrons time and time again, the Japanese navy and air was a formidable foe.

[Tymathee]

Everybody knows the Americnas got their butts kicked in Euroepe and the Pacific in the beginning. We were fresh faced, fighting two enemies who were seasoned in war at that point, luckily our industrial power was so mighty that we just out produced the Germans and Japanese. When you can great i think it was 3 battleships to their every 1 and 2 carrier for their 1 (might be more but i dunno) then it's hard to keep up. Same with our tanks and vehicles vs the Germans, i think we made 10 Shermans for ever Tiger, which Hitler loved. and 10 per 2-3 panthers and 4-5 p4's. Basically...America blobed and spammed to victory

[AmPM]

Tym...

First, we were not fresh when we hit Europe, we were fresh in Africa, in Italy and Europe the allied forces rolled the Germans pretty hard. Between the training, experience and supplies, it wasn't a real contest. You have to remember, the German army and Luftwaffe of 1943-1945 are very different in training and skills to those in 1938-1942.

Anyway, yes, spamming and blobbing is how you win wars =)

[Blitzen]

9/11 has nothing to do with oil, that's Iraq. 9/11 is a result of the Cold War with Russia.

Pearl Harbor happened because we put trade embargo's against Japan to try and dissuade them from conquering other nations to rebuild their empire.

Just because the United States is the ONLY proactive western nation does not mean that's a bad thing.

9/11 Has lots to do with oil.  America is a democracy, which means, unlike totaltarian states they need the publics backing to invade countries.  You were right, it wasn't Iraq, it was afganistan.  American corperations wanted to run a pipeline through it, nothing involving oil in the country itself.  http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/sardi7.html  And don't pull that proactive shit, american doesn't care what countries fuck up what other countries unless it affects there monies.  You never cared about how many frenchies or englishmen died.  Or Rwanda or any of the other shit that goes down every day.
And I'm not saying that you should, its not like its americas job to keep the world in line, I'm just saying don't use that "oh we give a shit card"

[AmPM]

I didn't say we care about the other people, but we are the only proactive western nation.

Other countries won't lift a finger unless we do about anything, its a useless "Democracy" that does nothing.

I also like that your link is to a conspiracy theory website =)

Was the Taliban evil, yes, was Saddam evil, yes. Did both do terrible things to their peoples, yes. So why are you so opposed to ending it, whether or not someone else gains from it, it's still not a bad thing to do.

As for a pipeline out of central Asia, the Russians already got the jump on it.

[deadbolt]

Us Americans didn't pownz the Japanese for a long time. At the beginning their fighter pilots were much more skilled than ours.

I read a true book written by a Japanese Ace and at the start they tore up the American squadrons time and time again, the Japanese navy and air was a formidable foe.

yeah i heard that crashing your plane was a true way of showing you're epic experience as a pilot

[Falcon333]

yeah i heard that crashing your plane was a true way of showing you're epic experience as a pilot

IIRC kamikazes only happened later in the war.

[Sach]

Pearl Harbour was on TV the other day.

What. A. Shit. Film.

[Killer344]

Just avoid making this kind of threads, save us the hassle.

[Mgallun74]

that seems like a good idea, nobody can stay on topic.