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[Two]

Why? Do normal jeeps not kill snipers fast enough?

Last 10 games ive seen a jeep trying to kill a sniper, never did, even when its 2 jeeps on 1. Bikes kill snipers jeeps dont.

[Unkn0wn]

Get 3 of them in one call-in, does the job 99% of the times.
(Assuming you're not a total tool microing them)

[CrazyWR]

Recon and sniper hunting is what jeeps are for. If you want something else get a m8. There's no reason to add units to the game just because we can.

this. 

[Two]

Assuming he is nowhere near cover  or a building and a million light years away from any form of support.

[Unkn0wn]

Cover doesn't stop triple jeeps, neither does the 'usual' AT support (one pak and/or shrek or tank)

You're just making it seem way harder to counter snipers than it really is in most scenarios.

[Falcon333]

Yea, snipers get ripped to pieces in just over a second if you use 3 jeeps.

[RikiRude]

you know what happens when i get 3 jeeps to hunt a sniper down? lets say a vet 1 axis sniper with a medpack... 1 jeep gets pak shot, the other two actually make it to the sniper shoot it, do some damage, and get killed by supporting units. 3 jeeps is about 75% chance you'll kill the sniper.

when i play WM, i send 3 bikes, they kill the sniper 90% of the time, and usually all the bikes get killed. but they do their job.


with jeeps you're better off getting 2 jeeps and a HT or something along those lines.

[Killer344]

You can't circle a jeep though (yeah, I've saved snipers doing that lol).

[Groundfire]

The point is that bikes do the job better.

As for a sniper counter, ive had the same impression with jeeps as riki has. Axis has it 10 times easier, not to mention the fact that a little pre scouting before the raid shows ways to sneak past 57mms, allies and the jeeps dont get this advantage because they'll usually hit a cloaked pak, losing 1-2 jeeps before they even reach the sniper.

I still dont see why armor doctrine cant get a beefier jeep because it's very fitting for the doctrine. I mean they still die like jeeps, but at least now you'll have a chance to kill something. Just reduce the detection radius/LOS, and mabey to balance it, completely remove normal jeeps from armor Co. to compensate for the beefyness of the jeep, so that you cant run 2 30.cals and a 50.cal together for a sniper counter.

[Groundfire]

Also, i would like to point out that mando doctrine never needed a jeep yet we gave them one anyways.

Recon squads and recons in bren carriers work just as well as any 3 jeep/bike call in, and if you charge a sniper under cover of AT, your going to fail, same with jeeps and bikes.

only a 2 recon squad are just incredible at running in and sniping, and chances are, your useing these troops anyways as main battle line troops, so their on hand anyways.

[bbsmith]

Jeeps survive 1 Pak shot. Bikes don't survive 1 57 gun shot.

[jackmccrack]

But bikes have twice the dodge rate

[BaleWolf]

But can they dodge mines?

[Groundfire]

and the jeeps are usually left with 5% health and a damaged engine, and that's out of cloak. In cloak, paks blow the fuck outta jeeps with that 1.5 damage bonus.

[jackmccrack]

But can they dodge mines?

If the bike is vet 1 maybe (.75 incoming accuracy)

[Demon767]

Imo. jeeps are better than bikes

[Tymathee]

my jeeps die to 1 pak shot, i must be unlucky.

[RikiRude]

But can they dodge mines?

yes! i have ran bikes over mines with out a scratch before!

[LeoPhone]

Well I think these jeeps would be used like the MMG Bren carriers, not for recon or sniper hunting.

this is what I was thinking, but also along the general lines of having a buffed jeep to play around with for armored co. flavor.

Edit- bikes actually preform this role rather well. While jeeps are pretty much only good for scouting and finding snipers, bikes can actually kill the crap out of support weapons, a job at which the 30 cal jeep lacks.

if you guys really want a jeep upgrade, it should get a little weapon buff so it can kill support weapons a bit faster. nothing else. either make it a standard armor doc. upgrade for the jeep, or doctrine unit. then you could also use this jeep model, but isnt that a little too much work?  

and commando jeeps must come out gliders.

[Mysthalin]

Why? Do normal jeeps not kill snipers fast enough?

After misten's sniper survived 7(yes, 7) jeeps from me and draken rushing it at the same time... I'd hazard to say - yes, they don't kill snipers fast enough.