lionel23
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« Reply #80 on: April 05, 2010, 10:54:29 pm » |
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lol Smokaz, I was about to say... I never heard of a situation where they wouldn't suppress something immediately unless it was under the cover of smoke or the squad is standing still in green cover, very far away.  |
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Congratulations, dear sir...I must say, never before have I seen such precise gunnery displayed. - CrazyWR (on Leaderboard Howitzers)  |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #81 on: April 05, 2010, 11:18:44 pm » |
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It was acting like a Quad not an HMG.
So basically its suppression has gone up and its damage has gone down? TBH it seemed like a good unit before, ill have to test it out again. MG42 does a LOT more damage than a quad. but what type of hmg is the question, the american, a vehicle .50 cal, or the mg42. |
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"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #82 on: April 05, 2010, 11:26:13 pm » |
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It was acting like a Quad not an HMG.
So basically its suppression has gone up and its damage has gone down? TBH it seemed like a good unit before, ill have to test it out again. MG42 does a LOT more damage than a quad. but what type of hmg is the question, the american, a vehicle .50 cal, or the mg42. It's an MG42. Gamesguy is talking about the never-occurring situation where the mg42 fires at something without immediatly supression or pinning it Suppressed infantry gain no defensive bonuses vs MG42. |
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Malevolence
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« Reply #83 on: April 05, 2010, 11:42:55 pm » |
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MG42s do 50% damage to suppressed targets. This is, like, the world's most basic CoH knowledge that everybody knows. This is why MG42s suppress, then volks kill - they are among the few units in the game that do 100% damage versus suppressed units.
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Akranadas' Greatest Hits, Volume 1: Vet has nothing to do with unit preformance. We are serious about enforcing this, and I am sure you all want to be able to have your balance thought considered by the development team with some biased, sensationalist coming into your thread and ruining it. |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #84 on: April 05, 2010, 11:48:12 pm » |
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What she said.
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« Reply #85 on: April 05, 2010, 11:51:30 pm » |
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I thought it was against pinned units only?
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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« Reply #86 on: April 05, 2010, 11:51:40 pm » |
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prove it and you'll win
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #87 on: April 05, 2010, 11:55:39 pm » |
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MG42s do 50% damage to suppressed targets. This is, like, the world's most basic CoH knowledge that everybody knows. This is why MG42s suppress, then volks kill - they are among the few units in the game that do 100% damage versus suppressed units.
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Malevolence
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« Reply #88 on: April 05, 2010, 11:57:27 pm » |
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Fuck you, everyone knew that was the case, and it was on CoH stats as of 2.301 which is when people actually played the game and cared about the stats. It must've been patched out silently since or sturmtruppen messed up.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #89 on: April 05, 2010, 11:57:40 pm » |
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Thats news to me tbh, anyways pinned units do take less accuracy etc.
If you look at how coh-stats describes the effect, the text and the numbers dont add up.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #90 on: April 06, 2010, 12:14:48 am » |
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so basically, smg's rape suppressed units. makes sense to me.
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Malevolence
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« Reply #91 on: April 06, 2010, 01:12:52 am » |
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According to their linked tables MP40s are one of the very, very few weapons to NOT get full accuracy against suppressed units.
So, that doesn't seem to be the case, apparently.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #92 on: April 06, 2010, 01:59:58 am » |
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so basically, smg's rape suppressed units. makes sense to me.
Yes, mostly because against suppressed targets you can close the range with SMGs without getting shot up. |
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« Reply #93 on: April 06, 2010, 02:20:59 am » |
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so why mp 40 dont get full acc? what,volks would be super OP then?
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Trishut
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« Reply #94 on: April 11, 2010, 07:39:32 am » |
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When is the next reset?
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« Reply #95 on: April 11, 2010, 07:40:09 am » |
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A bit after all Doctrines are implemented.
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« Reply #96 on: April 11, 2010, 04:55:31 pm » |
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Do anyone know if "Tank hunter veterans" with it's speed bonus also make eg. jagdpanthers and other turretless tanks turn faster?
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« Reply #97 on: April 12, 2010, 06:52:21 am » |
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Do anyone know if "Tank hunter veterans" with it's speed bonus also make eg. jagdpanthers and other turretless tanks turn faster?
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« Reply #98 on: April 12, 2010, 07:38:42 am » |
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Yes, pretty sure it does. Thats why you place marders and Hetzers on Negative road cover when fighting. It accelerates their turning speed so less things can circle them.(the hit a tank takes to accuracy in negative cover is negligible in most cases, and easily overcome through lockdown bonuses in the marders case.
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« Reply #99 on: April 12, 2010, 08:36:31 am » |
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Thanks for the answer and tip  |
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