Smokaz
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2010, 09:37:55 am » |
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To solve a unit situational problem you don't need to look further than vanilla CoH.
You generally need more muscle behind your game to win with combined arms than with gimmickry. For newbs to snatch enough wins to stay around, I'd say roll the dice with a weighted company and hope it works out. Take me (who's more combarms oriented than most) as an opponent for example, if you're newer and going combined arms against my combined arms your chances are dismal. If you focus heavily in one area there's still hope. Anyways, this is more about what to expect. How to use that info is up to each and everyone.
Thats one of those nasty diseases you can grow here, people. It's called Wehrmacht Combined Arms syndrome, where you think having the superior weapons, and suppression resistant grens is making you good.  |
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SlippedHerTheBigOne: big penis puma
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2010, 10:37:24 am » |
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Things like puma phase through will be looked into when doctrines are implemented.
why? Don't worry, unless we get someone proficient at modelling and especially clipping models it's not going to happen ^^. Why, what's wrong with its hit box? I'm sure upping the received accuracy while moving will easily solve the problem. |
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2010, 10:54:54 am » |
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the problem is, if im correct, is that on normal units misses can still hit, in the way they projectiles will not keep tracing the enemy behind corners. but they can still hit the enemy coz they are in their way.
the puma however is never in the way coz its hitbox is.. not there. so only REAL hits will hit him.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2010, 02:11:43 pm » |
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Things like puma phase through will be looked into when doctrines are implemented.
why? Don't worry, unless we get someone proficient at modelling and especially clipping models it's not going to happen ^^. Why, what's wrong with its hit box? I'm sure upping the received accuracy while moving will easily solve the problem. No, that would simply be an outright nerf to the unit. Fixing the clipping model would be exactly that - a fix. |
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2010, 02:21:08 pm » |
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What's the clipping model, I've never come across that before? That's what I'm asking above.
Besides changing its received accuracy would pseudo fix the "phase through" problem, although received damage would also require a modifier if that becomes an issue.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2010, 02:49:51 pm » |
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Basically, you know what a hitbox is in FPS games?
That's what a clipping model is in CoH.
Most units clipping models and actual in-game models correspond - the puma's, most likely is somewhere around the wheels, or is only capable of clipping with bazooka shots.. It's complicated, really.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2010, 03:40:49 pm » |
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Things like puma phase through will be looked into when doctrines are implemented.
why? Don't worry, unless we get someone proficient at modelling and especially clipping models it's not going to happen ^^. You were saying? Basically, you know what a hitbox is in FPS games?
That's what a clipping model is in CoH.
Most units clipping models and actual in-game models correspond - the puma's, most likely is somewhere around the wheels, or is only capable of clipping with bazooka shots.. It's complicated, really. I fixed it without doing any modeling changes.  |
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Groundfire
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2010, 03:52:03 pm » |
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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2010, 04:41:08 pm » |
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NOOO! STOP NERFING AXIS!!!!!!! GO NERF ALLIED OP T4s!1!1!!1!!!!!!1!!1!
Now lets get ontopic shall we?
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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2010, 04:43:49 pm » |
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So axis just lost its hard counter to AB blobs?  |
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I like how this forum in turn brings out the worst in anyone
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deadbolt
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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2010, 04:53:20 pm » |
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i guarantee if i alter mysth's volkspam it will be epic.
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« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2010, 05:47:06 pm » |
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So axis just lost its hard counter to AB blobs? We have HMGs! Oh wait they have fireup...... |
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2010, 05:49:43 pm » |
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Oh relax, RR will probably get decreased dmg to pumas when phase through fix goes in.
Skirted P4s are decent vs RRs. Not to mention infantry.
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Killer344
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2010, 07:30:50 pm » |
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If it goes in.
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If I get shot and it's a gay medic fixing me up, he's not gonna be fondling my balls while he does it. You can't patch a chest wound and suck a cock at the same time.
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Malevolence
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2010, 08:38:35 pm » |
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Things like puma phase through will be looked into when doctrines are implemented.
why? Don't worry, unless we get someone proficient at modelling and especially clipping models it's not going to happen ^^. You were saying?  |
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Akranadas' Greatest Hits, Volume 1: Vet has nothing to do with unit preformance. We are serious about enforcing this, and I am sure you all want to be able to have your balance thought considered by the development team with some biased, sensationalist coming into your thread and ruining it. |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2010, 10:09:18 am » |
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Heh nice gamesguy, still - by the explanation you gave in the chat I still had a grain of truth in my views on it . |
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Groundfire
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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2010, 10:13:22 am » |
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Oh relax, RR will probably get decreased dmg to pumas when phase through fix goes in.
I could deal with this. at least you can use them now in conjunction with an ATG to fight off triple pumas. even if the RRs just chip away at the health. I cant remember how many times that scenario presented itself. ATG hits a puma, RRs go in for the kill, all 4 RRs phase, and the triple Pumas rape the ATG. Most annoying thing ever |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2010, 10:23:19 am » |
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or you know what will be even more annoying? Smoke covered AB come up and rape pumas. That shit'll be halarous!
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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2010, 11:31:22 am » |
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I've never been a fan of 'fixing' things from vCoH. I would have kept the old m10 if it was up to me.
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2010, 11:06:05 am » |
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Still in need of better formatting, it's a pain to read.
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