The debate! Wind Vs. Cpt.

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[Heartmann]

I have now had time to read the chat log, and also taken in account what was said in launcher.

IN my humble opinion, it seems like a communications malfunction between the both of you.

Stikk in general terms is angry of the fact that people who are "pros" or names to be feared seem to only play with each other, and thus promoting stomping. As an example he mentions a few well known names and wind ofc. Even thou he doe also admit that wind has a tendency towards playing with noobs, it seems he thinks wind still prefers to play with the all the other big boys. He did say that all you want to do is stomp, but i might have been a more innocent meaning behind the words, again in my humble opinion, than wind gave them credit for. BUT it does not change the fact that they are words of accusation.
Further,!Edit! Stikk is not a new player, but the argument by itself is pretty valid !Edit! Stikk, to my knowledge is a relatively new player, which in any fight makes it unfair since it is always hard for someone to stand up to people who in communities are considered "bigger" so I do commend him for that. But in conclusion from his point of view i would suggest to take a hold of your temper Stikk. Because it does not serve you well in a discussion to go throwing out ill chosen words in the end.

Wind, as usual takes a very philosophical point of view, which can be very aggravating and has a tendency to come across as arrogant, snooty and/or very provocative. Im sure that in most/all cases this is not the fact, but you must remember that this is something that can happen and plz take it in accordance next time. Since as I stated before, you are one of the larger names in here, and you don't need to go crushing younglings like that. Even if they are being idiots, there is no point which you must accept seeing as you are and have stated that you are "defending logic" and as the philosophical point of view and life. Even if your role model dear Mr. Hendrix has statements like
All I'm gonna do is just go on and do what I feel, im guessing you have a little more of a argumentative side towards life no?


In conclusion, i would say Wind is right in saying that Stikk, should not state things "all you want to do is stomp" if you cant put your self behind the words. Take responsibility for your actions, THERE is nothing wrong with calling Wind a stomper, BUT if you do pull that kind of proclamation, then you need to be ready to defend it.
So I would say that Stikk, you should apologies to Wind for the accusations, if you did not really mean them, and the both of you need to practice on your communication skills. Wind could again, maby tone down the omniscience part of your character but thats just me ^^

Anyway then taking in account that pros tend to sit with each other, unfortunately Stikk many of the ppl who have played this, Like each other, well maybe not Smokaz, but the rest likes each other, and there fore wants to play with each other. Just human nature.

Thats all for me, hope it helped ^^ or stirred your proverbial soup like minds.

[Smokaz]

I hate them, they are the worms of the earth. Nice post

Also heartmann and kwiatekk shamelessily stacking and stomping everyday 4 realz.

[Mister Schmidt]

If you're on about CptBAdass or whatever, then that's stikupkid, which explains his argumentative annoying behaviour.

[Heartmann]

@Smokaz: Thanks for the love, i know it must have been hard

@Schmidt: Aaa ill correct it at once,

[Killer344]

/face

[salan]

If i had a dedicated player to play eirr with day in and day out I would play with that player and fight (stomp?) anyone who joined our game without a second thought..   Whenever I play I usually just get stuck with people I don't know and generally enjoy it a little less because of that reason.

[StikUpKid]

like i stated before without heartman seeing the original text his "write up" will be totally pointless and irrelivant.it all stemed from wind saying to eric
"all you do is ppfarm"
at this moment in time eric did just want to ppfarm=fair enough it was  athrow away comment imo.
in reply i said
"all you to do is stomp"
this ment at this point in time wind was looking for a stomp, it was just another throw away comment/rewording of winds accusation of eric, because wind and bill(shmidt) were in a game together after just beating on eric and sum1 i cant remember who were admitadly probably just farming.i never wanted to argue.
  wind took extreme offence to this and i explained his misunderstanding of what i said twice in launcher...he either did not see my explanation or chose to ignore it. he seemed to think i was saying he always "just stomps" ..i did not say that.
EG.we all know eric does not only "pp farm" and while i said to win the text
alone "all you do is stomp" is obviuosly an accusation but if you read it in its original context (directly after winds comment to eric) i think its quite clearly not accusing him of ALWAYS just stomping.i said many many times during the argumment "lets stop this" and "ask killer for the chatlog then slap yourself".

HEART i resent you asking me to control my anger seeing as the entire conversaton in launcher when wind was insulting me and undermining me i remained totally calm and asked him to stop arguing and ask for the chatlog.I also said several tiems it was a misunderstanding.....like your conclusion.seriously you say i should be prepared to back my words...this is exactly what i was doing the entire time....backing the truth.

FINALLY i think hearts post is a pretty pointless, slightly bias ,provoking/shitstiring waste of time(since he never saw the originaly converersaton in launcher) and id appreciate it being locked/deleted to evade further pointless drama. and if you RLY RLY RLY want to sort it out and if its possible a mod or w/e should get the chatlog starting from
wincriesmary:eric all you do is pp farm.

[RoyalHants]

lol stik the last 5/6 games ive played with wind only 1 had a lower than lvl 5 in it tthe most of times they were GG's with pershings against panthers and tigers nothing pp farming bout that 

[StikUpKid]

with all due respect royal you just totally got the wrong end of the stick<<<<awful pun not intended

[RoyalHants]

with all due respect royal you just totally got the wrong end of the stick<<<<awful pun not intended

-_+ (hehehehe) i suppose i didnt read every word of it but thats wot it lokked like

[bayarea510]

this ment at this point in time wind was looking for a stomp, it was just another throw away comment/rewording of winds accusation of eric, because wind and bill(shmidt) were in a game together after just beating on eric and sum1 i cant remember who were admitadly probably just farming.i never wanted to argue.

That's not shmidt btw.

[3rdCondor]

I almost killed wind's pershing once with Malgoroth.

EDIT: And that other dude who I can't remember his name. Sorry

[Heartmann]

Stikk, Wind sent me the original chat log

[tank130]

Cptbadass is quickly making a lot of enemies in the launcher, from what I can see.

[Heartmann]

HEART i resent you asking me to control my anger seeing as the entire conversaton in launcher when wind was insulting me and undermining me i remained totally calm and asked him to stop arguing and ask for the chatlog.I also said several tiems it was a misunderstanding.....like your conclusion.seriously you say i should be prepared to back my words...this is exactly what i was doing the entire time....backing the truth.

FINALLY i think hearts post is a pretty pointless, slightly bias ,provoking/shitstiring waste of time(since he never saw the originaly converersaton in launcher) and id appreciate it being locked/deleted to evade further pointless drama. and if you RLY RLY RLY want to sort it out and if its possible a mod or w/e should get the chatlog starting from
wincriesmary:eric all you do is pp farm.

Right, lets take it from the top!

I was trying to be unbaised, the worst thing with a text, is that you read in emotions that you are already feeling. This ccreates a spinnoff where you outlive your anger or to be a word fascist "catharsis". This is never good nor healthy.
I said that Wind very well could come across as a "pompous ass" even thou he does not always intend to do that, I think its just his way of debating, different cultures and all that good chum. 

And Saying that my topic should be deleted does not solve anything, im entitled to a point of view just as the next guy, and as stated before Wind sent me a chat log, AND i did take part of the after match in the launcher, so i would be so bold to state i have at least a half say in this.

[Heartmann]

Cptbadass is quickly making a lot of enemies in the launcher, from what I can see.

Nah, Im not angry, im more curious, ofc, this could be very annoying, but don't make it less true. This conflict is psychologically interesting ^^

[AlterFrax]

I almost killed wind's pershing once with Malgoroth.

EDIT: And that other dude who I can't remember his name. Sorry

His name's Bythe Boz. XD

[StikUpKid]

HEARTMAN the original chatlog you recieved was me explainign how things happned in vent chat but the original debate you were not present for and the aftermath in the launcher thatyou witnessed involved me sayinng i dont want to carry on arguing and not much more. i tto thought this would be facinating to a psychologist because wind so many times accused me of "wre-writing history" which i did not do atall ever where as wind did this many times including putting words in my mouth such as "i didnt mean that" he quoted me on saying this alot ...i never said it.the irony of this alone made me want to stop arguing straight away because you cannot argue with ppl that lie/twist/put words in your mouth on a his word against my word basis. it will never end. AGAIN if sumbody was able to dig up the original chat from launcher which heart did NOT see everything would become very clear.and im aware you are intitled to your opinion but i asked or it to be removed because all it does is fuel confrontation and bad feelings toward me(in this case) based on false information. and im pretty sure nobody else realy cares about this petty argument so it could have quite easily been done in vent/PMs.dragging it into the forums is childish and pointless.your pretty much just shit stirring and nobody like a shit stirrer

[Smokaz]

Stikupkid is that guy who always harasses people in launcher

[StikUpKid]

no i do not "always harrass ppl" atall...in the slightest. i dont know if your trolling or not due to my false infromation comment but seriously can we remove this thread i feel like  a molested catholic choir boy that the beloved community priest makes out to be a liar lol.