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									 «  on: August 19, 2007, 11:05:26 pm »  | 
								
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							propaganda war is no longer on a use system.  Instead it work via a cooldown timer.  Don't know if this was intended as it was not on the list of changes.
  However, it is now actually useful seeing as it does not kill anything, it needed to have a cooldown instead of a uses.  
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									 « Reply #1 on: August 19, 2007, 11:23:29 pm »  | 
								
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							Wasn't it always useful, stripping away infantry AT support in face of an armor advance? Or just forcing a 5 minute retreat against 5 ranger squads (French Countryside)?
  How long is the cooldown?
  *devs, please; document all changes. Seriously; only Relic tries to hide their buffs/nerfs.
  I wonder what type of change this will make... 
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									 « Reply #2 on: August 19, 2007, 11:54:58 pm »  | 
								
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							The cooldown is 30 seconds.  It's incredibly overpowered if this isn't changed. 
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							 Step out of the way. He'll keep going until he hits a wall, that being Akranadas. Let him go unmolested, his journey will take less time.  
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									 « Reply #3 on: August 20, 2007, 12:15:46 am »  | 
								
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							its probably broken... i don't see why it would be on a 30 second timer intentionaly..  3 terror players would own endlessly    
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									 « Reply #4 on: August 20, 2007, 12:17:34 am »  | 
								
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							Cd is 45 seconds
  and its actually a good thing
  teach those allied players to keep their units together in invincible mobs while we axis can't (strafing run/howitzer/nades/satchels/bombing runs/calliopes/and other op allied shit that i can't think of) 
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									 « Reply #5 on: August 20, 2007, 12:33:17 am »  | 
								
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							on a big map it will make playing absolutely pointless ;( 
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									 « Reply #6 on: August 20, 2007, 01:07:50 am »  | 
								
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							Cd is 45 seconds
  and its actually a good thing
  teach those allied players to keep their units together in invincible mobs while we axis can't (strafing run/howitzer/nades/satchels/bombing runs/calliopes/and other op allied shit that i can't think of)
  Except that it's broken when it's only supposed to work twice, yet you can use it an infinite amount of times.  Also, LOL @ Satchels breaking up infantry.  
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									 « Reply #7 on: August 20, 2007, 01:12:48 am »  | 
								
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							Prop is seriously overpowered and annoyingly so for a t1 ability anyway, even with 2 uses... 
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									 « Reply #8 on: August 20, 2007, 01:24:30 am »  | 
								
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							Prop is seriously overpowered, even with 2 uses...
   
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									 « Reply #9 on: August 20, 2007, 04:00:03 am »  | 
								
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							Hahaha, oh noes, you can retreat their troops twice. This wasn't done on purpose either way   .  
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									 « Reply #10 on: August 20, 2007, 04:02:10 am »  | 
								
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							They also reduced the Iron Cross by 25 Mun or? 
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									 « Reply #11 on: August 20, 2007, 04:04:46 am »  | 
								
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							That was documented. 
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									 « Reply #12 on: August 20, 2007, 10:03:03 am »  | 
								
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							Shouldn't be unlimited use... if it is, it's a bug and should be posted as such. 
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									 « Reply #13 on: August 20, 2007, 10:04:48 am »  | 
								
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							I tested and it wasn't. 
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									 « Reply #14 on: August 20, 2007, 10:14:41 am »  | 
								
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							The timer is at 45 seconds...
  Please tell me that this isn't an All-Fool's Day joke. 
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									 « Reply #15 on: August 20, 2007, 10:16:31 am »  | 
								
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							It's not, they get a set number of uses...  That's the timer in vCOH also. 
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									 « Reply #16 on: August 20, 2007, 10:17:32 am »  | 
								
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							Bombing Run is only 15 seconds longer and I think we can both agree it's much more devastating. 
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									 « Reply #17 on: August 20, 2007, 10:22:28 am »  | 
								
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							K. if they get a set # of uses, I'm fine with that.
  Incidentally, how many uses do they get? 
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									 « Reply #18 on: August 20, 2007, 10:29:58 am »  | 
								
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							You get 1 panzerfaust use. 2 Sabotage uses. 1 bombing run with the T3, 2 bombing runs with T4 Air Superiority.
  What exactly is this thread about again? 
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									 « Reply #19 on: August 20, 2007, 10:32:09 am »  | 
								
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							5CP - Propaganda (gains the ability, 2 uses) 6CP - Sabotage (one random platoon - except the largest - from the opposition becomes undeployable) 16CP - V1 (Gains the ability, 1 use) 29CP - Subversion (All enemy platoons except the first take 100%, 50%, 33%, 25% longer to deploy, Propaganda uses increased to 4, Sabotage increased to 3 platoons) 
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