Brits popping smoke is OP

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[nugnugx]

In the past pretty much everyone agreed (advisors, community, devs) that officer spam before the nerf were OP, so far you seem to be the only one who thinks riflenades are OP......

future games will tell.  (and smoke , not riflenades)

[brn4meplz]

I made a post about the American Mortar smoke like 2 years ago. because 1 Barrage of Mortar Smoke was covering the entire city in Tanteville, lol.

[NightRain]

I made a post about the American Mortar smoke like 2 years ago. because 1 Barrage of Mortar Smoke was covering the entire city in Tanteville, lol.

They were smoking pot tbh.

So, it is the SMOKE that is overpowered? Why is it then "Brit smoke" instead of "Smoke" by itself?

[nugnugx]

So, it is the SMOKE that is overpowered? Why is it then "Brit smoke" instead of "Smoke" by itself?

smoke ON riflenades.

Come close to axis inf , pop smoke,  win.

I wouldn't say a thing if a brit mortar would be providing smoke to those riflenades, but just popping smoke like that makes it OP.
I need hummel or MHT to provide smoke , wehr or PE inf cannot pop smoke out of their arse.

I've changed the name of thread to make my point more clear - the popping of smoke by riflenades.

[101stGG]

Clear the tommies with a HT, get inf out of there while they have smoke.

[Heartmann]

Cant be beothered to read the last page so if anyone has already said this beg my pardon, BUT NUG SERIOUSLY?

DUDE, COME ON!!! You trolling or what???

Ohhh noooo the luft got half health by a rifle nade Thats bs..... Dude??? Firstly they are standing in a neat little bundle, second ITS A FING NADE!!!! What u thinks gonna happen???

Second Rifle nads are a very linjear one shot LONG ass reload weapon, just zig zag and close upp in close quarters OR move forward make then shot, then back up FAST and then move in for kill.

the smoke part well nuffin really to add to that part ^^

[nugnugx]

Cant be beothered to read the last page so if anyone has already said this beg my pardon, BUT NUG SERIOUSLY?

DUDE, COME ON!!! You trolling or what???

Ohhh noooo the luft got half health by a rifle nade Thats bs..... Dude??? Firstly they are standing in a neat little bundle, second ITS A FING NADE!!!! What u thinks gonna happen???

Second Rifle nads are a very linjear one shot LONG ass reload weapon, just zig zag and close upp in close quarters OR move forward make then shot, then back up FAST and then move in for kill.

the smoke part well nuffin really to add to that part ^^

this isn't about riflenades l2read

[Artekas]

( and what's with 1 riflenade bullet hitting luft team and dropping it to half hp ? at 0:44)

[nugnugx]

oh ffs , this was just a remark why one bullet from rifle makes so much dmg ,  but the thread is not about them

[Artekas]

Because they're wildly inaccurate, slow firing, and your troops were bundled. If they didn't have power they would be completely useless.

If you don't want people to answer the question, then don't ask why.

[Heartmann]

I know that most is about riflesmoke, but he still complained about em! Read it yo self!

[Spartan_Marine88]

Smoke is a legit tactic.


As i said earlier all armies have units that do well in the smoke. Play around it.

[nugnugx]

can no one understand that problem here that i want to show ?  that NOT smoke is problem here but rifles popping it ?

[Spartan_Marine88]

I don't think any of us have an issue with it

[nugnugx]

I don't think any of us have an issue with it

you are playing brits,

i've heard in launcher and ingame players saying about this being a nuisance. i guess i have to drag them here.

[Illegal_Carrot]

I see what you're saying. Normally when you use smoke you get a mortar to pop it in an area, and then move in flamers/RRs/nades in conjunction to take advantage of the smoke. The fact that Tommies don't need the mortar; that they can just pop it on themselves as a sort of mini commando smoke and be safe while still dishing out damage unaffected.
Perhaps a good solution would be to increase the minimum distance than smoke could be fired? Then they'd have to pop smoke and then move into it, rather than just popping it on themselves and instantly getting the bonuses.
Still, not a major issue in my book. The only time I'm afraid of rifle nades with when there's 10 of them raining down on you at a time. Rifle nade blobs are scary.

[nugnugx]

I see what you're saying. Normally when you use smoke you get a mortar to pop it in an area, and then move in flamers/RRs/nades in conjunction to take advantage of the smoke
Still, not a major issue in my book. The only time I'm afraid of rifle nades with when there's 10 of them raining down on you at a time. Rifle nade blobs are scary.

yep , that's why players who know what they are doing are blobbing riflenades and doing the 'pop op'


beacuse some don't post on forum it doesn\t mean the problem does not exist

[Groundfire]

can no one understand that problem here that i want to show ?  that NOT smoke is problem here but rifles popping it ?

No, I get it.

Smoke from mortars requires timing and coordination of combined arms.

Smoke from riflenades are a self sustaining AI force that requires no thought, is on a short cooldown and is a portable plasma shield, if you will.

It just promotes blobbing and sloppy play.

Any other unit that has this kind of utility has to pay for it in the form of separate smoke grenades and they have uses.

[nugnugx]

yep (seems brits 'discovered' this and it's a new FOTM)

[Tymathee]

still, it's always been there. It's been over a full year and no one has ever complained about it.

BTW...they launched their smoke at max range, not close range.  It takes a while for riflenade smoke to really cloud up and since they're not popping multiple clouds but just one from each guy, its the blob that makes it crazy not the riflenade itself.