What do the Allies have that's better than the Axis?

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[Spartan_Marine88]

Not really, the Stickies purpose is to prevent people charging into your lines and circling ATGs, which it does FAR better than any other handheld AT in the game.

you don't even need stickies for that, as soon as they see vanilla rifles they back off

[AmPM]

Spartan, true, but thats because of the threat of Stickies.

Stickies are the ONLY Ranged Permanent critical in the game thats reliable.

For most vehicles this means a use of repair.

Most people only have 1 repair per vehicle.

I think they should be changed to be like the LATHT TBH; it wears off after a minute or two.

[Smokaz]

I think socks should have a 50% chance vs skirts leaving stickies viable against the axis super-heavy/heavys but making it less of a guaranteed thing against skirted armor. Also retains the use vs fast flanking vehicles like pumas and ACs.

However I see a possible problem with the moving IST, because other than armor that's the only thing moving ISTs are scared of.

I find there is presedence for making such a powerful ability more random. There's plenty of randomness in EIRR already.

[LeoPhone]

I think socks should have a 50% chance vs skirts leaving stickies viable against the axis super-heavy/heavys but making it less of a guaranteed thing against skirted armor. Also retains the use vs fast flanking vehicles like pumas and ACs.

However I see a possible problem with the moving IST, because other than armor that's the only thing moving ISTs are scared of.

+1000 to less chanse of engine dmg for tanks with skirts.

skirts should costs fuel though, just like sherman 76.

[Smokaz]

Assuming perfect micro, a panther should never ever defeat a firefly, thus the firefly is in it's essence a better unit(particularly at the designed task of killing tanks), while being cheaper.

The near-impossibility of achieving perfect micro across the entire community is a whole different matter, however.

Another thing is that while "idling", a panther has good accuracy vs infantry and can take out stuff.

[Mysthalin]

Another thing is that while "idling", a panther has good accuracy vs infantry and can take out stuff.

pays a premium of fuel, popcap, manpower and range to achieve that.

[AmPM]

+1000 to less chanse of engine dmg for tanks with skirts.

skirts should costs fuel though, just like sherman 76.

Why should they cost fuel? The 76mm directly upgrades the Sherman's AT firepower.

Skirts only affect handheld, munitions based American AT weapons.

Now if we went back to skirts affecting all incoming fire, and negating say, that cheap 76mm upgrade, then yes, I would say fuel.

[Illegal_Carrot]

Carrot your starting to get annoying with your whining. Why the hell would you have a tank ALONE behind enemy lines and expect anything more then getting raped.

Stop being stupid, learn to micro your tanks better, support them and you will realize that button and stickies ain't that OP, but a tactical inconveniance

No Spartan, you and Mgallun are getting annoying with your blatant Allied favoritism.

I know how to properly micro and use tanks proper vs infantry. I'm calling out the huge discrepancy of Allied tanks running over Axis infantry without issue, turning M10s and CCTs into awesome anti-infantry vehicles, meaning that suiciding a vehicle is a legitimate tactic so long as you run over enough shit. I support and properly micro my vehicles, but it's things like Stickies flying through multiple houses, or Button's long range and instant effects that only add to the problem. Even Smokaz called out Stickies and Button as a problem, guess he needs to l2p too?

if sticky is so bad and game changing, can you just give them zooks in place instead of a doct choice, maybe move stickies to the T3 doct choice?

Real easy: reduce the cost of stickies, greatly reduce their chance to crit, increase their range by 5m, and remove the vet 2 bonus. Now you've got a cheaper, yet still effective AT option for your Rifles that is comparable to Fausts, yet are atill better due to higher damage + chance to crit. It's a viable option on all Rifles (not just vet 2) and is still scary enough to stave off Axis tanks without it instantly crippling said vehicles.

Your theory crafting on a StuG running over exactly 3 Rifles squads before being stickied is retarded. + Your cost comparison fails to take into account the increased Fuel or Munitions cost of this tank, which is now a useless sitting duck.

You all Axis only players, hop into Allies too. Guarantee you will get games more often and enjoy EIR more.

I have one profile fir each faction, and they all get played equally.

[Smokaz]

I think its gay that the axis counterparts dont exist, primarily. Since they dont I rag on button and stickies being so much better than threadbreaker.

[Mgallun74]

No Spartan, you and Mgallun are getting annoying with your blatant Allied favoritism.

I know how to properly micro and use tanks proper vs infantry. I'm calling out the huge discrepancy of Allied tanks running over Axis infantry without issue, turning M10s and CCTs into awesome anti-infantry vehicles, meaning that suiciding a vehicle is a legitimate tactic so long as you run over enough shit. I support and properly micro my vehicles, but it's things like Stickies flying through multiple houses, or Button's long range and instant effects that only add to the problem. Even Smokaz called out Stickies and Button as a problem, guess he needs to l2p too?
Real easy: reduce the cost of stickies, greatly reduce their chance to crit, increase their range by 5m, and remove the vet 2 bonus. Now you've got a cheaper, yet still effective AT option for your Rifles that is comparable to Fausts, yet are atill better due to higher damage + chance to crit. It's a viable option on all Rifles (not just vet 2) and is still scary enough to stave off Axis tanks without it instantly crippling said vehicles.

Your theory crafting on a StuG running over exactly 3 Rifles squads before being stickied is retarded. + Your cost comparison fails to take into account the increased Fuel or Munitions cost of this tank, which is now a useless sitting duck.
I have one profile fir each faction, and they all get played equally.

meh, i may play allied only basiclly but i would i just show allied favortism, because i dont come here saying this is op this broke, we needs this etc.... i just play.

[Illegal_Carrot]

meh, i may play allied only basiclly but i would i just show allied favortism, because i dont come here saying this is op this broke, we needs this etc.... i just play.

It's easy to sit back and do nothing when your game isn't constantly being reuined by broken OP spammed bullshit.

[Mgallun74]

It's easy to sit back and do nothing when your game isn't constantly being reuined by broken OP spammed bullshit.

what? you talking about last game? please explain to me what i used that was OP and broken? i didnt see 1 offmap, stickys etc.

[Illegal_Carrot]

what? you talking about last game? please explain to me what i used that was OP and broken? i didnt see 1 offmap, stickys etc.

I don't even know what the last game I played with you was. I'm talking about the mod in general. Allied arty reigns supreme to such a degree that there's virtually nothing you can do as Axis. Support weapons and squads get one-shot, as do 88 crews and even units in trenches. These weapons also get completely destroyed, so you cannot even recrew them. HTs and virtually all PE vehicles get owned by these barrages, which even do decent damage to armor. Bunkers and buildings get destroyed before my HMG crew can even attempt to leave them. Allied armor literally owns everything.

In return Nebels can't even kill units in buildings anymore, and Stukas do shit for damage.

[Artekas]

I disagree with your assessment of Stukas, sir. They're awesome.

[Illegal_Carrot]

I disagree with your assessment of Stukas, sir. They're awesome.

No they really aren't. I just played a game today with FailHammer and Fraxis where Fail's Stuka fired 7 barrages, and most of them kept landing smack perfectly into the middle of an AB blob. It got 0 kills all game.

[BigDick]

interesting thread but
post some more replays i want to be entertained  

I agree with the point on Button.

 Realistically there is no reason why a tank should be unable to move just because it's vision slits have been bombarded by weapon fire. At best they would be unable to fire with the least bit of accuracy, but there is nothing stopping them from hitting the gas in any direction.

 It makes no sense and is poor gameplay.

 -Wind

Ok i give you guys a hint

What are the differences between vCoH and EiR in terms of mobile brits AT?

Ok maybe it was a bit of a stretch, but my point isn't that stickies are bad, there good i love them but they are hard to use without the axis player being an idiot.

Ok i have a hint for you too.

What is the difference between vehicle criticals in eir and vcoh?

[TheWindCriesMary]

blah blah blah

 I'll give you a hint.

 What is the difference between your post and a relevant point human beings might be concerned with?

 Less fail plox.

 -Wind

[smurfORnot]

CCTs into awesome anti-infantry vehicles

thankfully they nerfed that so he cant crush inf any more...but it's rather funny when players dont know that,and hoplesly try to run over your inf...

[BigDick]

I'll give you a hint.

 What is the difference between your post and a relevant point human beings might be concerned with?

 Less fail plox.

 -Wind

that proves my point that you understand nothing

ok i should have added whats the point of slaughtering hundreds of people in a shooter and human beings

but since this is a EiR Related Discussion and not WindCriesFails playground for offtopic spam it was directed to gameplay

[TheWindCriesMary]

 You really need to invest in a working understanding of the English language.

 What point are you trying to make about Button?

 Right now you've succeeded in being completely incomprehensible on any rational level, so make a clear and coherent point in intelligible language or gtfo and stick to foreign language forums.

 -Wind