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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2011, 03:25:35 pm » |
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I think it can kill 50mm before 50mm kills it.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2011, 03:37:18 pm » |
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depends if the range is not to big but having button on then yes but only with ap rounds.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2011, 04:10:03 pm » |
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2 Bren carriers together = instant suppression on all inf.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 04:16:56 pm » |
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against PE bren spam works very well.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 04:33:39 pm » |
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i once had an mmg with ap rounds take out a vet 2 puma at the start, was hilarious. I love these things and in numbers they're nasty but they die soo faaast
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2011, 04:53:21 pm » |
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From what?
Um... a PaK? We're talking about American ATG killing an axis half track in two hits. The german equivalent gun takes 3 shots to kill the american equivalent half track which is half as much fuel. |
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2011, 06:19:03 pm » |
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^ it suppresses like a .30 cal it has similar stats.
the vicker on the carrier has 1/3 of the suppression of the .30cal/mg42/stationary vicker. It is not "similar" |
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2011, 06:56:34 pm » |
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Um... a PaK? We're talking about American ATG killing an axis half track in two hits. The german equivalent gun takes 3 shots to kill the american equivalent half track which is half as much fuel.
You forge the American ATG takes longer to fire between shots and has a longer tracking traverse, while the axis gun can shoot faster and can ambush on the first shot. |
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2011, 08:46:28 pm » |
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No, I didn't "forge", but we're not talking about AT anyway, we're talking about the cost of a halftrack.
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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2011, 09:13:43 pm » |
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They cost the same btw.
Bren Carrier 220mp 30fu
Infantry HT 230mp 35fu
Wher HT 220mp 25fu
M3 HT 220mp 25fu
The CW/PE HTs are more expensive for obvious reasons, I'm curious as to how the "the american equivalent half track which is half as much fuel".
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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2011, 09:25:00 pm » |
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Dude don't even bother posting if you're just going to reply to the last comment out of context. No one mentioned manpower or those other half tracks.
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« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2011, 09:39:59 pm » |
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@ Vertigo - Uh, out of context? Killer is totally in context since you brought it up. The HTs are all roughly same price except for the PE one for it being Open-topped. Anyway clearly I see your name in mention to HTs: Um... a PaK? We're talking about American ATG killing an axis half track in two hits. The german equivalent gun takes 3 shots to kill the american equivalent half track which is half as much fuel.
Also let me quote you yet again: No, I didn't "forge", but we're not talking about AT anyway, we're talking about the cost of a halftrack.
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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2011, 11:21:32 pm » |
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the vicker on the carrier has 1/3 of the suppression of the .30cal/mg42/stationary vicker. It is not "similar"
meh it seems like it i must've looked at the numbers wrong but it's still pretty good great thing about them though is that they dont pin very fast so they can kill when things are suppressed |
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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2011, 11:57:39 pm » |
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meh it seems like it i must've looked at the numbers wrong but it's still pretty good great thing about them though is that they dont pin very fast so they can kill when things are suppressed
you have to suppress them first. |
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« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2011, 12:03:10 am » |
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I think what he meant was UNsuppressd like the .30cal in terms of damage.
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« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2011, 04:37:36 am » |
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^ right. they dont suppress as fast as the 30 cal bu tthey do a good amount of damage and what i meant firesparks since u seem to not get it even tho ur an rgder is that because bren carriers dont PIN fast, they stay SUPPRESSED long thus enabling them to have more damage dealt to them unlike the mg42 which actually does more damage but because it pins so fast the damage output is lower. I've had 3 bren carriers on one infantry unit and not pin it but it stayed suppressed until i could kill it or it ran away.
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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2011, 05:07:17 am » |
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Paks kill US HTs in 2 shots.
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« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2011, 07:41:19 am » |
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Paks kill US HTs in 2 shots.
Wow, you're right! I didn't know about the target table buff. So, the halftracks are both 2 AT rounds a pop. However, the allied M3 is still cheaper. |
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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2011, 07:43:43 am » |
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Wow, you're right! I didn't know about the target table buff. So, the halftracks are both 2 AT rounds a pop. However, the allied M3 is still cheaper.
How can it be CHEAPER when they cost the exact same...? The only difference between the two is...is this: M3's MG is ultimately BETTER than Axis HT's but Axis HT has HUGE Suppression in it and it comes with 2 MGs instead of 1 |
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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2011, 10:04:13 am » |
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How can it be CHEAPER when they cost the exact same...? The only difference between the two is...is this: M3's MG is ultimately BETTER than Axis HT's but Axis HT has HUGE Suppression in it and it comes with 2 MGs instead of 1
the m3 mg isn't better, it just seems to do more damage because it wont pin as fast, I explained this with the bren carrier. IF you have infantry near the m3 ht and the wehr ht, the wehr ht will kill really fast but at medium/long range it'll pin you fast while the m3 wont so it has more chance to do its full damage. |
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