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smurfORnot Offline
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« on: January 13, 2011, 06:28:05 am »
Why cant bren carrier be dmg by small arms fire?

Just compare it to almost any PE vehiachle(except panther/IST/hotch) which can all be dmg by standard rifleman/tommie .
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2011, 06:30:39 am »
Ok. I compared it to infantry halftrack. Looks like they both are immune to small arms.

Next please.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2011, 06:34:37 am »
The Bren used to take damage from small arms, but them people complained.

"My units die when they get shot! I demand a buff!"

Now Brens are immune to small arms, and require dedicated AT to take out.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011, 06:37:03 am »
I guess you find this completely different from the infantry halftrack or the armored car, carrot. Who both struggled because of how infantry heavy EIRR normally is and how everything that has something remotely similar to a damage-dealing weapon was able to dent and wear this down. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2011, 07:33:55 am »
Quote from: Smokaz on January 13, 2011, 06:30:39 am
Ok. I compared it to infantry halftrack. Looks like they both are immune to small arms.

Next please.

except inf halftrack is not,if u have like 2 squads with bar,in green cover,even if they are supressed,they will win...and at range,they win even easier...
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2011, 10:49:09 am »
God, the amount of retarded cinism is getting out of hand.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2011, 01:57:29 pm »
Quote from: smurfORnot on January 13, 2011, 07:33:55 am
except inf halftrack is not,if u have like 2 squads with bar,in green cover,even if they are supressed,they will win...and at range,they win even easier...

and lmgs damage bren carriers as well as g43's, bren carriers can damage inf halftracks too, so it looks like if you upgrade your weapon you can damage and even destroy infantry carriers, sounds good to me
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 03:24:37 pm »
I am quite sure that I didnt do shit do bren with mmg with smal arms,or is he different than normal bren carier?
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2011, 03:45:30 am »
The bren carrier MMG is expensive, it's just as expensive as the puma or stuart.
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2011, 03:59:01 am »
bren 240mp 40 fuel
puma 280mp 65 fuel

bren will pin inf very quickly,can button vehiachles,and with ap rounds can destroy halftracks/puma,basically everything that is not tank. Puma has a bit more survability cuz of phase armor,but in every other aspect it is weaker.
so I wouldnt rly call him expensive  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2011, 04:08:29 am »
Bren MMG 240 MP 40 FU 4 pop
Flammenwerfer HT 260 MP 40 FU 5 pop

Think this comparison is a lot more relevant to the discussion, really.

The bren is far superior to the flammenwerfer in terms of survivability, maneouvrability and range, as well as versatility.
However, the flammenwerfer has a gun that is more efficient at killing infantry and can kill infantry in cover - something the bren is far from being able to do.

But, at the same time - I doubt the flammewerfer being effective vs units in houses is enough to warrant for it costing actually MORE than the bren carrier MMG in terms of manpower and most importantly - popcap.

I would recommend increasing the bren MMG's cost in light of this.
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2011, 04:41:24 am »
give flammenwerfer ht PE HT armor so it doesnt die to 1 atg hit.
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2011, 06:09:21 am »
It dies in two hits, this is fine for a 40 fuel vehicle?
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2011, 01:44:41 pm »
Quote from: Smokaz on January 16, 2011, 06:09:21 am
It dies in two hits, this is fine for a 40 fuel vehicle?

Because a 25 fuel vehicle (allied equivalent) takes 3... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2011, 01:46:04 pm »
Quote from: VERTIGGO on January 19, 2011, 01:44:41 pm
Because a 25 fuel vehicle (allied equivalent) takes 3... Roll Eyes

From what?
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2011, 02:34:52 pm »
Quote from: smurfORnot on January 14, 2011, 03:59:01 am
bren 240mp 40 fuel
puma 280mp 65 fuel

bren will pin inf very quickly,can button vehiachles,and with ap rounds can destroy halftracks/puma,basically everything that is not tank. Puma has a bit more survability cuz of phase armor,but in every other aspect it is weaker.
so I wouldnt rly call him expensive  Roll Eyes

Bren carrier need the RCA specialty to suppress/pin, otherwise you're going to be shooting at them for a while.
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2011, 02:44:00 pm »
The MMG actually suppresses pretty well without the doctrine....
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2011, 02:47:14 pm »
^ it suppresses like a .30 cal it has similar stats.
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2011, 02:47:19 pm »
my bren with ap killed kt from rear armour hit, pwned
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2011, 02:52:01 pm »
AP Bren MMG wins a Puma any day with button and it is being relevantly cheaper too. + it can own anything with armor made of paper with AP rounds
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