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Author Topic: [AM] Boys AT Rifles  (Read 9355 times)
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BigDick
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2011, 07:26:06 am »

as long as they don't turn 1 mm they can move as i said if you extend its gun trough a virtual line in your mind than it'll drive backwards as long as your not clicking 1mm away from that line

otherwise it tries to turn and stop movement and a new order will fuck its pathing
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2011, 09:58:07 am »

as long as they don't turn 1 mm they can move as i said if you extend its gun trough a virtual line in your mind than it'll drive backwards as long as your not clicking 1mm away from that line

otherwise it tries to turn and stop movement and a new order will fuck its pathing

Marder moves kinda like a StuG does...
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2011, 11:09:16 am »

how can it with a much slower turning rate and a much smaller object box?
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2011, 11:45:12 am »

how can it with a much slower turning rate and a much smaller object box?

The driver likes to do the same things StuG driver does. He'll go over speed and stops very slowly if accelration is on max speed. He'll turn slowly without a road in general etc. He wants to turn to drive forward instead of backward. Those sort of things
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2011, 12:56:08 pm »

uh, luft gets 'em too...i dont even think the Brits get 'em anymore only Armor and Luft have Boys AT now.
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2011, 01:07:02 pm »

but fact it that allies get more use of them,since they are very effective against whole faction,unlike if u take them with luft,your enemy has to have stag/T17/m8/bren or else they wont do much...
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2011, 01:13:07 pm »

I do not think countering Boys AT rifles is difficult either when playing against the Americans. They come on riflemen which are terribly weak infantry that can be taken out with almost any form of AI. One MG will prevent forward movement of a boys squad; or an assault squad for that matter.

Ironically, with the current changes boys AT rifles will be most similar to bazookas...which come on a notably stronger platform and cost 10 munitions less. Perhaps this nerf should be accompanied with a slight price reduction. Considering the platform, penetration, and damage of the boys AT rifle (lowest out of all other forms of AT) I think a price of 50-70 munitions for the RIFLEMEN platform is fair.

In contract, the Tommy platform should be around 75-85 given their greater survivability.

On the other hand, we could slightly increase their damage or penetration and maintain their current cost.

Bottom line: they will no longer be cost effective at their current 90 munition cost on riflemen.

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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2011, 06:01:26 pm »

how is it being addressed?

0.6 damage modifier vs 88s and ATGs.
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BigDick
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2011, 06:04:02 pm »

and what is about completely anihilating PE?

that is way more imbalanced than killing ATGs and flaks

they should penetrate marders not from the front to often
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2011, 06:05:13 pm »

and what is about completely anihilating PE?

Opps, forgot to tell you all that the rifle is technically an AT weapon designed for killing light vehicles. My bad.
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BigDick
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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2011, 06:06:27 pm »

Opps, forgot to tell you all that the rifle is technically an AT weapon designed for killing light vehicles. My bad.

yeah a cheap never missing spamable AT weapon on a mainstream plattform to kill a complete light armored based faction especially their AT (marders 50mm HTs)

not forgetting that they are comming in the doctrines with tanks PE can't reliable penetrate anyways (armor pershing, RE churchills especially the croc)
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2011, 06:07:03 pm »

Opps, forgot to tell you all that the rifle is technically an AT weapon designed for killing light vehicles. My bad.

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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2011, 06:42:55 pm »

but fact it that allies get more use of them,since they are very effective against whole faction,unlike if u take them with luft,your enemy has to have stag/T17/m8/bren or else they wont do much...

they also do well against m-10s and m-18's, stuarts, tets, firefly's (cuz they're so close, easy to get behind/side)
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