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[nugnugx]

Should BAR suppression fire affect only 1 unit like G43 slow and work with its aiming mechanic ?

[Demon767]

maybe.. but why not then give G43 suppression fire like bars. they fire like full autos when the ability is active

[nugnugx]

maybe.. but why not then give G43 suppression fire like bars. they fire like full autos when the ability is active

nah, g43 is not smg,  slow is ok imo as it works on 1 unit ,   bars suppression fire is op because  you can suppress many units.




ps: inb4 Tym lmao

[NightRain]

On top of it Suppression Fire effects handgrenades too! Makes Nuclear Pineapples Insta pin stunners!

[nugnugx]

On top of it Suppression Fire effects handgrenades too! Makes Nuclear Pineapples Insta pin stunners!

lolwut ?

[NightRain]

lolwut ?

Go test it out. Pop SF and throw a handgrenade. You can see them either insta pinned or suppressed if it hits

[BigDick]

bar is difficult to balance but slow and on one squad sound good

maybe a slight price reduction to 70-75 mun

[nugnugx]

Go test it out. Pop SF and throw a handgrenade. You can see them either insta pinned or suppressed if it hits

that should be posted in bug sections imo

[NightRain]

that should be posted in bug sections imo

Never posted it out as I was never 100% sure if that WAS the case. However a test is needed in order to see wether or not it is so

[nugnugx]

bar is difficult to balance but slow and on one squad sound good

Suppression fire like now but only on 1 unit (not 'slow' like on g43)

[DarkSoldierX]

If bar was reduced in price wouldnt it just rape current PE even more? Or atleast PE can shoot back now that they arnt surpressed.

[nugnugx]

If bar was reduced in price wouldnt it just rape current PE even more?

Bigdick suggested price decrease only after the nerf.   5-10 mu decrease is a fair price for nerfing the suppresion to 1 unit. Currently with suppresion fire you can suppress multiple units from a single bar.

Or atleast PE can shoot back now that they arnt surpressed.

 wut ?

[Tymathee]

suppression fire is on rifles because without it they'd get rolled by lmgs and mp44's. you can say bring an hmg but because the suppression rate on the hmg is lower than that of the mg42, a lot of times, and i've done this with pe and wehr infantry, you can walk into the hmg's arc of fire, take a burst or 2 and not even go yellow or you can just walk thru the fire and toss a nade and take it out.

i feel that if u take it away from the americans or even do it down to one unit, bar rifles would just get rolled everytime they hit the field.

[smurfORnot]

for each lmg,you can have bar that will supress it,so how exactly would they get rolled over?

[BigDick]

you wasnt in before tym so you fail 

and im wondering how a squad should "roll over" something when it can't fire on the move and has 75% firepower of a normal gren squad while "rolling over"

[WildZontar]

I thought the BAR did only supress one squad, or atleast it seemed to from my experience >.<

[chefarzt]

WEll u can change targets while sf is on, other option is puttin a bar squad in a house hit sf and watch all surrounding inf get supressed

[Tymathee]

you wasnt in before tym so you fail 

and im wondering how a squad should "roll over" something when it can't fire on the move and has 75% firepower of a normal gren squad while "rolling over"

ok, have a single lmg squad and a single bar squad go toe to toe without suppression fire, who wins?

Like people only have a single lmg squad on the field, they usually bring them out in twos, you suppress one, the other will rape the bar squad while the ability is active, it'll become a suppress one squad and run, you wont even get a chance to try and pin, forget it.

[nugnugx]

Let me summarize Tyms post


1 bar suppressing 5 mp44 -----   ok

1 bar suppressing 1 mp44 (which costs more and is a close assault weapon) ----  not ok

they usually bring them out in twos

yes and riflemans are also in twos 

2 bars  will suppress 2 lmg

[smurfORnot]

you can supress and kill KHC,even 4 members with bar squad 

and to supress whole blob,no matter how big it is with single bar squad,is just a bit too cost effective,since there is no way for axis to break supression.