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[Tymathee]

most of the info is already there tym. Its just understanding what half the stuff actually means. But most is self explanatory really.

I said i know how to read it, i've just never tried editing it, although if i really wanted to i probably could, i'm just lazy.

[cloud234]

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Constructive criticism is actually quite encouraging. It shows us that the community cares enough about the mod to spend time writing a well-reasoned post, and we respond positively to these types of posts.

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Please respond to the PzGren changes thread 

[panzerman]

posts like wilds should be deleted straight away to stop thread becoming stupid...and they should be blocked from the thread at that.

only problem with the internet is when people don't like something it gives them the ability to abuse the crap out of some1 without gettting smacked in the face... not many people can do that face to face.
i really am sad that it has come to we may have lost another dev (BoB) due to this,

now i was not too happy with the new doctrines as i liked the old ones and thought why change it, things seemed to be balanced apart from maybe AB. and to change it so much looked bad and slightly retarted until u got used to them, and the new ones are mostly good, some things still look stupid but probably because no1 has had time to fix them or make any majour changes.

[Sachaztan]

Posting in an epic thread.

So much rage, so much butthurt. What's the ETA to the flamewar? Or has it already begun?

This thread is made of win.

[Demon767]

You know, if the game failed to meet the expectations of the public, whos fault is it really then.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

You know, if the game failed to meet the expectations of the public, whos fault is it really then.

The public should not have expectations for they will allways be broken.

[Groundfire]

You know, if the game failed to meet the expectations of the public, whos fault is it really then.

There are no expectations to meet because you all want something different. Just the bare fact that the coders need to listen to any of us is incredibly inefficient and leads to problems of coder disinterest and burn out, which really is the only important thing that decides a dead mod from a live mod because for every 1 person that bitches on these fourms, there is another or two that are willing to try the changes, adapt, or are just indifferent and will play anyways because they trust that the devs and balance team always have balance in mind.

I am not a dev. I am a community member with access to all fourms for PR purposes. I am the transparency, and there is nothing to show. No One that can progress the mod in it's current state is interested anymore. We can put out balance patches, but that's about it.

Unfortunately, we are at the point now that if you all want to see some progress and the further continuation of this mod, this place is gonna have to go all "Napoleon style" and suspend liberties. There is almost no choice but to allow someone the creative freedom to finish developing the mod as they see fit.

I dont like it either, but it's what has to be done to keep this mod afloat, to see completed doctrines and a warmap anytime soon.

[Falcon333]

So then why do you listen to us?

Shouldn't changes be based on how many members want it as opposed to how loud a few members can rant about it?
I mean, it's good to look at how the community thinks about the current state of affairs. But isn't it better to have a hardlined plan to follow instead of going on every whim of the moment?

[spinn72]

If the mod dies, it should go back to vEiR for like a month before death, that would be epic.

[Spartan_Marine88]

Unfortunately, we are at the point now that if you all want to see some progress and the further continuation of this mod, this place is gonna have to go all "Napoleon style" and suspend liberties. There is almost no choice but to allow someone the creative freedom to finish developing the mod as they see fit.

This comment just goes to show that you don't even comprehend whats going on.

Let me rephrase this for you, but bluntly.

The devs apparently don't feel like working on the mod anymore

We gonna do some banning

The devs still don't feel like working on the mod anymore

Mod dies

We gonna blame the players and say it was there negativity 

Fact is though, there are quite a few people willing to take up the dropped flags and work hard but instead your going to chase them away...

Oh and one last thing, maybe people wouldn't hav flamed Bob so hard, if he hadn't always delayed things by 2 weeks or more. A pissed off audience is the hardest to please. And if i remember correctly he was playing Pirates with the people apparently 'flaming' him and 'insulting' him according to this thread, although I never heard it, for extremly long periods of time.

[nugnugx]

 no wonder this community is nearly dead, and now you are killing the last remaining bits of people that actualy wanted to see it be alive, that's why they are here in the first place.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Oh and one last thing, maybe people wouldn't hav flamed Bob so hard,

when did they flame bob?

[nugnugx]

when did they flame bob?

I want some hard proof also , because it seems to me that some 'flaming' was born in someones mind only.
I've never seen any attacks here on forum , i've seen only trolls and whines due to some changes( like pzgren change), other than that there is always some whining about this or that change which should be shrugged off as always someone will whine about something.

Some small change things can be discussed , but core-idea changes should be implemented by the main brain of team even if some whine but the team knows this is a good idea and will work in the longer run - if not ,  it's bad planning and you can only blame yourself and not other people.

[tank130]

This comment just goes to show that you don't even comprehend whats going on.

Let me rephrase this for you, but bluntly.

The devs apparently don't feel like working on the mod anymore

We gonna do some banning

The devs still don't feel like working on the mod anymore

Mod dies

We gonna blame the players and say it was there negativity  

Fact is though, there are quite a few people willing to take up the dropped flags and work hard but instead your going to chase them away...

Oh and one last thing, maybe people wouldn't hav flamed Bob so hard, if he hadn't always delayed things by 2 weeks or more. A pissed off audience is the hardest to please. And if i remember correctly he was playing Pirates with the people apparently 'flaming' him and 'insulting' him according to this thread, although I never heard it, for extremly long periods of time.

This comment just goes to show that you don't even comprehend whats going on.
Let me rephrase this for you, but bluntly.

Demon, Spartan,  are perfect examples of ungrateful, childish, immature spoiled little brats who have no appreciation for people who bust their asses for free only to have people like you shit all over them.
You three people are perfect examples of why this MoD is failing. Your constant bullshit is the only reason the Dev team are sick tired of the bullshit.

When this mod fails, take a look at yourself. You are to blame, plain and simple. Unfortunately you are to stupid to realize your own mistakes. You will spend all of your time blaming everybody but yourselves because you are too weak to admit your mistakes.

Killer, Elitegren, please for the sake of the mod, just ban these guys. They do nothing but breed negativity in these forums and in games. They have said absolutely nothing positive about this mod, so you will be doing them a favor by eliminating them. They will not be forced to play a game they hate so much. If you care about the future of this mod, please take a stand now before it's too late.

Edit: Removed a name I had  in there by accident.

[chefarzt]

Pissing on other community members just because ure pissed off wont help.
Just saying. Fuckin nazi attitude tbh.

[Heartmann]

Quote from PonySlaytstation:

Let me take a better example. You're at a restaurant and you order soup but when the waiter shows up with your soup there's a dead bug in it. While waiting for your new soup you are forced to eat the bug-ridden soup to survive. After waiting for a few hours your new soup arrives but there's a bug in it again. The next 200 soups will all have bugs in them so after waiting a few years and only eating bad soup you start to get really pissed off, how do they manage to always mess it up? But then one day the waiter arrives with a bug-free soup. But before you get a chance to taste it the waiter is quick to take it from you because it "needs some adjustments". Would you be happy about this? What if he puts another bug in it?

Are you a complete moron?

Anyway thats beside the point,

I love this mod, and I love most guys in here, There are very few people here i do not get along with. I have on some occasions let myself get to emotional and started throwing insults like the one above. But sometimes they are needed, because we can not always turn the other cheek. That does not justify them or that we should accept them, but they will forever occur, since as in life some people just dont get it unless its written on a big mallet and repeatedly smashed in the face with it.

When reading this thread, not even knowing it existed untill one of the biggest trollerz i know gave me a shout and said " hey check this out this shit is the funniest ever". Now on a normal day i just would have ignored him, as i always do, but the link he gave me was from this forum, so ofc i became worried that he had done something real stupid... AGAIN.

But reading these posts, I see my own mistakes, the will for people to gain insight, and then amidst the rambling about the details, and choices we need to make to pick a path we got lost.
We bicker and fight amongst ourselves like we were teenagers again, not able to let got when someone calls us by a bad name and we just have to hit him. Why? Because he said something hurtful - flawless logic, now all we need is guns.

There are several things I would like to change, but raising my fists to the sky and cursing God (or whatever creator you worship, and yes this includes spaghetti monster or just play atheists cursing there parents/society for not enough love) try doing something about it? If it is something that inflicts so much pain, maybe you should dig deep inside your primitive side and learn to avoid it?

When I say doing something, i do not mean asking others to do it for you, this means learn to Code as it is in this case, and if you are to lay then accept it and move on.
When people ask for your opinion then give it, dont just assume its warranted or even justified. This includes my own.
I try to shut up in cases that I have no clue what people are talking about, ask if I want to know more, but I hope I strive to not presume that I can add anything that they seem to know more about.

Again for those of you who feel that I'am sitting on a high horse, Im simply your beggar in rags, sitting by the road with a sign saying "This way" With 2 arrows point either way.
I make mistakes, and give way to emotions, but I also try and learn from this and regain posture, just the other day i gave way to an argument with Myst, and the moderators/devs, Rightly so, bashed my head in, since i was out of line, and accepted this.

this Mods needs compassion, understanding and acceptance, deal with your short comings, and realize they are there, arrogance, ignorance and intolerance are things that are easy to miss, so also from those that are reacting towards the negative aspects of our character flaws as HUMANS!  Please realize you have just as many, and be lingent with those that do make mistakes, chances are you made them yourself.

And to again point out this argument would be invalid if i let this go unsaid, I know Pony IRL, and he is a moron, that gives me the right here to tell him so, since I have a deeper understanding, this is again, not coming from an arrogant perspective, merely stating a fact.

Furthermore, rights to ownership and rights to complain, tuff thing to debate about, I will say this thou, the things that give me pleasure and joy I will try and keep alive.
Whereas the things that insight irritation and anger, i will try and remove.

With that said, I endorse tanks ORIGINAL post, and hope that people will read mine, as a neutral statement and not something that is meant as a personal attack.
Man can work wonders when working as one.

[tank130]

Pissing on other community members just because ure pissed off wont help.
Just saying. Fuckin nazi attitude tbh.

So you would rather their cancerous negative attitude stay here. You would rather they stay here and destroy the mod?

I am surprised you care so little about the mod.

[Sachaztan]

This comment just goes to show that you don't even comprehend whats going on.
Let me rephrase this for you, but bluntly.

Demon, Spartan,  are perfect examples of ungrateful, childish, immature spoiled little brats who have no appreciation for people who bust their asses for free only to have people like you shit all over them.
You three people are perfect examples of why this MoD is failing. Your constant bullshit is the only reason the Dev team are sick tired of the bullshit.

When this mod fails, take a look at yourself. You are to blame, plain and simple. Unfortunately you are to stupid to realize your own mistakes. You will spend all of your time blaming everybody but yourselves because you are too weak to admit your mistakes.

Killer, Elitegren, please for the sake of the mod, just ban these guys. They do nothing but breed negativity in these forums and in games. They have said absolutely nothing positive about this mod, so you will be doing them a favor by eliminating them. They will not be forced to play a game they hate so much. If you care about the future of this mod, please take a stand now before it's too late.

Edit: Removed a name I had  in there by accident.

And thus the epic flamewar that ruptured EIR:R and brought upon the apocalypse was started at 08:39:35 am (forum time). There were signs as early as March 06, 2011, 06:16:42 pm (forum time), but little could the foolish mankind do to prevent their impending doom.

I shall be retreating to my hidden bunker in the mountains now, my only connection to the outside world will be a broadband internet connection.

[chefarzt]

So you would rather their cancerous negative attitude stay here. You would rather they stay here and destroy the mod?

I am surprised you care so little about the mod.

Stagnation is the problem and not peeps that dont share ur opinion. Thought u where a grown up. Make up ur mind, think again and then think some more...............
I mean seriously everyone is pissed off coz theres no sign of progress. Hopefully EIRRmod can give a statement or at least say hello.
But still you shouldnt start to fuck with other guys because ure frustrated.
Bad karma u know

[TheIcelandicManiac]

when did they flame bob?

Okey guys anwser this question for me please.
 just someone that knows what he is talking about.