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Demon767
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Re: PE sniper?
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Reply #60 on:
June 13, 2011, 06:05:06 pm »
Quote from: Demon767 on May 24, 2011, 05:04:10 am
We are focusing on this issue, please do not bring up any others, or "If thats OP why cant this be" arguments.
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: PE sniper?
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Reply #61 on:
June 13, 2011, 06:05:49 pm »
Just to let you know you both, we have a few bipolar factions here.
Fallchrims with FG42 = defencive ambush unit
Fallschrims with Riflenade = Offencive unit
See? Quite bipolar huh? You are both wrong, there is no "luft is fast" or "luft is defence" Because luft can do both depending how yo focus your company and how you play it.
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8thRifleRegiment
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Re: PE sniper?
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Reply #62 on:
June 13, 2011, 06:10:01 pm »
trolol dark id more say
fg42= Epic
Riflenades on falls= Waste of munitions
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 06:11:02 pm »
Wooo i can allso stay defencive with the bltiz doctrine if i have battle hardend grens and paks and i can allso defencive can be offencive if i have stukas, dual zreck grens and grens with lmgs and medkits.
That dose not prove anything for you can use all doctrine do all you want with the right setups but some units never the less do not belong in places where it boosts an use of a doctrine that is not suppose to be defencive doctrineeeee.
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 06:14:43 pm »
Quote from: 8thRifleRegiment on June 13, 2011, 06:10:01 pm
trolol dark id more say
fg42= Epic
Riflenades on falls= Waste of munitions
Thats opinion mate, If you ever face allied players not spamming flamethrowers, you will be amazed how awesome oversupplied 3 riflenade falls can be. But it relies a crapload on luck there. You can decimate a a bar squad before they even get into range, and you can also completely miss and not kill a single dude.
Quote from: TheIcelandicManiac on June 13, 2011, 06:11:02 pm
Wooo i can allso stay defencive with the bltiz doctrine if i have battle hardend grens and paks and i can allso defencive can be offencive if i have stukas, dual zreck grens and grens with lmgs and medkits.
That dose not prove anything for you can use all doctrine do all you want with the right setups but some units never the less do not belong in places where it boosts an use of a doctrine that is not suppose to be defencive doctrineeeee.
Where did they say luft is a fast, mobile, and sneaky? Please show me.
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8thRifleRegiment
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 06:17:52 pm »
Quote from: DarkSoldierX on June 13, 2011, 06:14:43 pm
You can decimate a a bar squad before they even get into range,
and you can also completely miss and not kill a single dude.
I prefer not to run on luck and use g43s on my falls with ambush bonus and tier 4 to create sniper falls
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TheIcelandicManiac
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Re: PE sniper?
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Reply #66 on:
June 13, 2011, 06:19:01 pm »
Is it suppose to be slow, all to see tank for last time i saw all of the doctrine abilitys It allways centers around the ability to be mobile , fast or sneaky.
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 06:20:15 pm »
Quote from: 8thRifleRegiment on June 13, 2011, 06:17:52 pm
I prefer not to run on luck and use g43s on my falls with ambush bonus and tier 4 to create sniper falls
Or you can use smoke and laugh as the riflenoobs run in fear. Or dare and try to shoot into smoke....
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8thRifleRegiment
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 06:22:46 pm »
Also dark, scout training and riflenades is an even wrose idea, becuase then you only have one guy in a sqaud of 4 that can actually hit something. And riflenades dont benefit from ambush so you lose the aspect of close quarters, something gets close, yer boned.
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lionel23
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 06:24:41 pm »
From personal experience fighting Riflenaders with Rangers, I'm more afraid of them than FG42s. FGs I can out DPS (though taking some damage in return) but riflenades just floor my rangers, especially when a squad can scatter up to 3 shots (with the +1 weapon upgrade) into the squad, I tend to avoid them.
If I recall, elite armor is more vulnerable to grenades, so yeah I find mass rifle nades to be more useful when running falls armies. Also, it can shoot over things too, like an infantry based piat.
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Mister Schmidt
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Re: PE sniper?
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Reply #70 on:
June 13, 2011, 06:26:57 pm »
Quote from: lionel23 on June 13, 2011, 06:24:41 pm
If I recall, elite armor is more vulnerable to grenades, so yeah I find mass rifle nades to be more useful when running falls armies. Also, it can shoot over things too, like an infantry based piat.
This is true. Elite Armour is highly susceptible to explosives.
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Katusha
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Re: PE sniper?
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Reply #71 on:
June 13, 2011, 07:02:13 pm »
In my experience, FG42 FSJ from ambush vs Rangers with thompsons will always win, due to what I believe is a decrease in effectiveness of the thompson vs soldier armor
The only way rangers can win is with a grenade, but thats 215 MU Rangers vs 120 MU FSJ
Riflenades are good with +1 package, but still too uncertain for me
And yes that T4 makes FSJ with g43's rape at long range, and luftwaffles also because they get a free FG42
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lionel23
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 07:07:00 pm »
My rangers are 5 SMGs my friend, I will rape those FG42s even when you're ambushing, and if I need reload bonuses I can hit Fire-Up in a pinch.
Also, SMGs are 145 MU now (still would never bother with wasteful grenades), but what is it.. 30 for the nade? So thats 175 MU.
Also the Rangers are 6 man (meaning I can lose 1 with no DPS reduction) while when you lose 1 you'll immediately lose damage output from a missing FG42.
Riflenades are pretty devastating at close range, due to better 'accuracy' and I've been hit by a single riflenade that doesn't kill my rangers but brings them under half life... and with two 'more' doing that, riflenades I think are a better burst damage weapon than the FG42 (which I personally think is overpriced and needs to come down a tad).
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 07:07:39 pm »
Can we get back on topic?
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 07:31:40 pm »
If PE gets a sniper, it'd probably want to be something like the terror of stalingrad; PE does NOT need a sniper that kills w. instacrits that it can garrison inside an IHT--thats just retarded face....
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 07:49:04 pm »
if PE gets a sniper then US gets a mobile ATG, that simple =)
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 08:02:33 pm »
Quote from: RikiRude on June 13, 2011, 07:49:04 pm
if PE gets a sniper then US gets a mobile ATG, that simple =)
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 09:06:56 pm »
Quote from: TheVolskinator on June 13, 2011, 07:31:40 pm
If PE gets a sniper, it'd probably want to be something like the terror of stalingrad; PE does NOT need a sniper that kills w. instacrits that it can garrison inside an IHT--thats just retarded face....
Why not?
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June 13, 2011, 09:13:40 pm »
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: PE sniper?
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June 13, 2011, 09:15:33 pm »
Guys just stop being so damn mirrored, stop this bullshitery bullshit of shitbull to the level of extreme poo poo. PE don't need a sniper.
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