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« on: March 16, 2011, 10:42:15 pm » |
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firesparks can you please tell me what the comet's gun is and how much it costs.
you said in game it was panther gun, but it says upgun sherman gun yet it penetrates everything like a FF.
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| spinn72
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2011, 11:35:59 pm » |
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Isn't it a 17 pounder gun (Firefly) on a crom chassis with panther accuracy and FF reload times?
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Firesparks
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2011, 11:36:22 pm » |
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the comet cost 500 mp and 360 fuel.
It's a new gun. The closest way I can describe it is a weaker panther gun. the penetration is a lower than the normal pershing with panther characteristic.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2011, 11:50:56 pm » |
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the price seem abit low and from wat i saw it consistently penetrated the tiger, p4 IST with good damage and it can easily back peddle away from most AT before to much harm could be done.
though to be said in the situation that we faced it with 2 armour companies, vs 3 companies lacking a little in base at and not enough counters to the amount of rifles even with 2 tigers and a kt.
edit: if this is a reward unit i can why it is so effective, i mean when axis get theirs 2 both sides will complain about they are 2 effective.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2011, 04:34:06 am » |
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heh blame me for price FS asked me what i think its worth. albeit in the game is aw it, it was his first time using it and it was gainst dual pe so it didn't get to do much.
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| BigDick
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2011, 04:59:52 am » |
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i fail to find the comet stats in rgds
if someone would enlighten me how to retrieve its stats?
same to churchil MK6 (which is supposed to be a MK4 with 75mm sherman gun) but i can't find its stats
nvm forgot that i got no eir on that laptop
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2011, 05:05:25 am » |
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heh blame me for price FS asked me what i think its worth. albeit in the game is aw it, it was his first time using it and it was gainst dual pe so it didn't get to do much.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 10:49:46 am » |
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The fact that you can fit 4 in a company with max fuel advantages seems to push it a little over the edge or 3 with some CCTs.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2011, 11:02:38 am » |
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Reward units they wont be massivley avaliable
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2011, 11:28:47 am » |
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Asking Tym to determine allied units effectiveness equal to cost base :O LUDICROUS!
i thought it was a purely at tank with limited ai since i saw it kill no infantry, so basing it around the same price as the jumbo and panther made sense. I dont think it can be really truly balanced until its let's free into the community to use, just letting FS test it...yeah not a sure way to test anything really, just one guy. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2011, 01:04:13 pm » |
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having four in a company is retarded becuase it can fight 1v1 against a tiger becuase it has more range then a tiger. its like a british tiger and you can have four... -_-
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2011, 01:51:45 pm » |
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Is comet in the game ?
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2011, 02:11:57 pm » |
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Saying you'll see 4 in a company, for a unit that isn't even in the game yet (only firesparks has access to it afaik) and once it is I imagine will be capped at 1 or 2, is just silly.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 02:23:41 pm » |
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2011, 05:03:12 pm » |
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Saying you'll see 4 in a company, for a unit that isn't even in the game yet (only firesparks has access to it afaik) and once it is I imagine will be capped at 1 or 2, is just silly.
Actually in this case I believe bringing up the Comet's current fuel cost is perfectly valid since: 1. This thread is probably in reaction to fighting Firespark's current test company that does field 3-4 Comets. 2. Showing that a company has the potential to field that many Comets even if the unit will eventually be capped or limited by reward points doesn't negate the fact that the brit will have a good amt of extra fuel left over for other armor which isn't bad to begin with anyway. Like I meant to imply Comet's a good unit not overpowering but maybe a bit too cheap fuel wise. Bringing up the argument that a Panther should always beat a Pershing because of its range and speed advantage, in turn this should be even truer for the Comet over Tigers/KTs/almost all axis "tanks" cept maybe Panthers/hotchkiss/Jagdpanther since it has the same range as a panther, same speed, and even greater acceleration. The fact that you could field 3-4 of these things or more realistically 1-2 and have plenty of other fuel for CCTs and other tanks is pretty impressive. |
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2011, 05:58:07 pm » |
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Consider it a WIP/unreleased unit, arguing about balance at this point is pretty pointless.
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2011, 06:05:46 pm » |
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just make it a slightly better 76mm sherman. brits dont have that atm and giving them a panther equal seems just ridiculous. since they aren't axis.
cromwell model bouncing off all shells coz of panther armor also seems rather odd.
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2011, 06:30:43 pm » |
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i thought the comet was just a upgunned cromwell, it should be. based on the same chassis, nothing else was changed really except the gun.
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2011, 10:16:11 pm » |
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Saying you'll see 4 in a company, for a unit that isn't even in the game yet (only firesparks has access to it afaik) and once it is I imagine will be capped at 1 or 2, is just silly.
It wont be capped. But it WILL be reward card based. Thus limiting its presence on the field. |
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2011, 10:21:14 pm » |
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i thought the comet was just a upgunned cromwell, it should be. based on the same chassis, nothing else was changed really except the gun.
they added more armor to the comet compared to the cromwell. the hull/turret have 76mm/102mm of armor compared to the 62mm/76mm on the cromwell. |
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