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Hydro
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[WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 12:29:43 pm »
I think actually there is completely no reason to use it. Shells are innacurate, range isn't the biggest advantage of it penetration sucks and AI capabilities are not enough for its price and tier 3 unlock.
So, here are some ideas how to fix it:
- increase range, so it would cooperate with bikes and spotters
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- decrease manpower and munition cost
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- add option as in 88 to shot some howitzer's shell
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EliteGren
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 12:33:37 pm »
It already has a barrage option. Making it a speedy moveable howitzer is just..wrong? I am shocked to even hear such a suggestion being made
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AmPM
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 12:43:16 pm »
It's still crap, easy solution, don't use it. It needs either more range (which means it outranges ATGs) or it needs higher accuracy.
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Hydro
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 12:49:34 pm »
Quote from: EliteGren on March 26, 2011, 12:33:37 pm
It already has a barrage option. Making it a speedy moveable howitzer is just..wrong? I am shocked to even hear such a suggestion being made
You mean, hit ground button with higher angle?
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RikiRude
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 01:32:56 pm »
I have to say these things seem to inspire more fear than do any actual damage when I go up against them. It's like the riflemen of support weapons, because it can damage everything, but it doesn't do specifically well against any one of those things. What happens if you simply use it to support your support weapons? Bring it in to do extra damage to a squad suppressed by an MG, bring it in to help your ATG. It's pretty much like a glorified allied mortar it seems. Or a direct fire mortar kind of.
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Groundfire
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 01:40:55 pm »
It is a direct mortar. I treat my LEIGs no differently than I do with a mortar. Suppress and bombard. For some reason, people tend to think that this support weapon is the only case in which it does not require some support to be successful.
Just pair it with a machinegun or another suppression tool, keep the Leig nearby, stop lolocharging it forward, expecting it to break advancing infantry and you'll be plesently suprised how fast it will decimate squads. No support weapon in this game is self sufficient, it's not gonna happen.
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 01:45:03 pm »
lol rifelmen of support weapons, he couldn't help throwing in an allied jab.
but yeah i agree with GF, they're like stronger mortars, you use them with other stuff. No more bringing out 3-5 of these at a time and expecting them to lol'rape everything. Heck, HMG, Pak + Leig = very hard to break unless you have artillery.
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Hydro
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 01:47:06 pm »
Quote from: Groundfire on March 26, 2011, 01:40:55 pm
It is a direct mortar. I treat my LEIGs no differently than I do with a mortar. Suppress and bombard. For some reason, people tend to think that this support weapon is the only case in which it does not require some support to be successful.
Just pair it with a machinegun or another suppression tool, keep the Leig nearby, stop lolocharging it forward, expecting it to break advancing infantry and you'll be plesently suprised how fast it will decimate squads. No support weapon in this game is self sufficient, it's not gonna happen.
Anyway it still needs bigger range +5 or 10 would be nice, so as you said it would be like mortar
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AmPM
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 05:42:36 pm »
Quote from: Groundfire on March 26, 2011, 01:40:55 pm
It is a direct mortar. I treat my LEIGs no differently than I do with a mortar. Suppress and bombard. For some reason, people tend to think that this support weapon is the only case in which it does not require some support to be successful.
Just pair it with a machinegun or another suppression tool, keep the Leig nearby, stop lolocharging it forward, expecting it to break advancing infantry and you'll be plesently suprised how fast it will decimate squads. No support weapon in this game is self sufficient, it's not gonna happen.
AAANDDD a Mortar does it better, with longer range, indirectly...
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Uglysori
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 06:12:28 pm »
Quote from: Tymathee on March 26, 2011, 01:45:03 pm
lol rifelmen of support weapons, he couldn't help throwing in an allied jab.
but yeah i agree with GF, they're like stronger mortars, you use them with other stuff. No more bringing out 3-5 of these at a time and expecting them to lol'rape everything. Heck, HMG, Pak + Leig = very hard to break unless you have artillery.
One flanking tank with good splash? Don't u only need to strafe the pak and ignore the leig?
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spinn72
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 26, 2011, 06:20:25 pm »
In the last game I played against you Hydroo you used it really well, that higher arc let you attack my piats and riflenades without me being able to touch you. It's a unit that fits in perfectly with the defensive doctrine and brings out what it's all about, creating lines for defense and holding them (which is personally a play style that I despise, but that's another story). They might be a little on the underpowered side, but they're still a great unit to have on the field to support a variety of other units you may have.
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Tymathee
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 27, 2011, 12:22:01 am »
the barrage being the same range as the normal ability makes no sense, at least make it a bit farther cuz whats the point of using it unless there's a blob coming, but then there's usually better options
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spinn72
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 27, 2011, 02:17:00 am »
The barrage is just a different rate of fire, much like the heavy support paks except it's not a toggle, you need to manually click where you want it to hit. There is no recharge or anything. If it got an increased range that'd be weird.
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AmPM
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 27, 2011, 02:47:27 am »
It's basically attack ground.
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BigDick
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 27, 2011, 03:18:03 am »
there should be added pak36 and puma stubby to this thread
both awful units too similar to leig
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Mysthalin
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 27, 2011, 05:10:57 am »
I too have no idea why the Leig isn't allowed to deal proper damage to tanks.
Right now there's no particular reason why you wouldn't just grab a mortar over it - or simply an HMG42. Do the same for less cost and popcap.
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puddin
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 27, 2011, 07:40:30 am »
Well then perhaps it nees to not be a teir 3, and lets stop making every fucking unit unlock needed.
See T-17s Much? No because they are not super units, No unlockable unit should NEED to be had, Its an option, It should b treated as such.
Every Week i play this game there is new units, New upgrades, and new shit to contend with that i have no idea what it is, what it does, and overlaps with units already.
I had it used against me a few times and the 2 shells it fired, killed 2 guys both times, it scared the shit out of me, and acted like a stuh.
That is morfeared then a mortor since it can be re crewed and moved o easily.
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smurfORnot
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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Reply #17 on:
March 27, 2011, 07:43:52 am »
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That is morfeared then a mortor since it can be re crewed and moved o easily.
and mortar can't be recrewed?
or moved easly? actually,u need to move it less,since it has biger range.
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Tymathee
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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Reply #18 on:
March 27, 2011, 08:40:08 am »
mortars take longer to pack up.
also i love the pak36, they're good at saying "infantry, back the hecka way"
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Re: [WH] LeIG the hopeles
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March 27, 2011, 08:44:49 am »
They changed it so it aculy hits something now?
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