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Hicks58 Offline
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« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2011, 12:36:23 pm »

You'll realise that balance changes are taken seriously depending upon the person posting the suggestion. Longer you've been here, the more seriously your likely to be taken. This is under the assumption that you've not proved yourself to be totally clueless in your extended duration here.

Great ain't it?

New players or players that have kept themselves quiet, essentially don't have a voice.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
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« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2011, 12:42:08 pm »

I think it's more along the lines of you not being taken seriously if your entire balance enquiry consists of :
"Buff X by Y"
without any justification towards ANYTHING.
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ErwinNH Offline
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« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2011, 12:43:57 pm »

You'll realise that balance changes are taken seriously depending upon the person posting the suggestion. Longer you've been here, the more seriously your likely to be taken. This is under the assumption that you've not proved yourself to be totally clueless in your extended duration here.

Great ain't it?

New players or players that have kept themselves quiet, essentially don't have a voice.

And so its irony as I said?
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Hicks58 Offline
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« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2011, 12:47:31 pm »

I think it's more along the lines of you not being taken seriously if your entire balance enquiry consists of :
"Buff X by Y"
without any justification towards ANYTHING.

Ah, but you see, if a new player simply says buff x by y, he gets trolled. If an experienced does the same thing, surprisingly, they'll be asked why.

Perhaps I should have clarified myself, the treatment of their statements is what's so different.
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ErwinNH Offline
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« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2011, 12:52:01 pm »

I was at fault for assuming that people understood the basic logical continuation that if M18 use = no then problem? = yes
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2011, 01:51:13 pm »

Your entire statement would be equitable to me stating
Pump a $13bn stimulus package into the economy.

And then start calling people idiots when they ask me to justify such an action - because, clearly, my wage hasn't gone up and that therefore the economy is in a recession - hence stimulus package.

Learn what logic is before bringing it into play.
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« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2011, 01:54:06 pm »

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He made a funny thread for bear, and got banned.

Now bear makes his own funny thread. It's unsurprisingly not funny.

Keeps died for our funny threads.
ErwinNH Offline
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« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2011, 02:28:54 pm »

Your entire statement would be equitable to me stating
Pump a $13bn stimulus package into the economy.

And then start calling people idiots when they ask me to justify such an action - because, clearly, my wage hasn't gone up and that therefore the economy is in a recession - hence stimulus package.

Learn what logic is before bringing it into play.


I don't know what causes you to try to equate US political partisanship to units in EIR, but you should probably not do that.


So as I said, that is apples and oranges. This is a game where the units get used for things. What you suggested is economics as part of a world market. The similarities between the two are absolutely nothing.

I worry for you son. And here i thought the only bad ones were nugz, deadbolt, and BigDick with demon switching at random between troll and serious.


Hi deadbolt, nice to see you.

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« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2011, 02:42:38 pm »

in all honesty, i think its fine as is, and these needless threads trying to get the the devs to change things that have never been an issue before, is honestly JUST WASTING TIME, lets not bog them down with fixing things that ALREADY WORK and let them try to fix STUFF THAT DOESNT. Genuis
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Ohh Good, AmPm can pay in Doubloons.
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« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2011, 02:45:53 pm »

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Demon767 Offline
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« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2011, 03:36:28 pm »

Ah, but you see, if a new player simply says buff x by y, he gets trolled. If an experienced does the same thing, surprisingly, they'll be asked why.

Perhaps I should have clarified myself, the treatment of their statements is what's so different.

Examples, because im pretty sure, that certain 'experienced' players have come on the furom, all full of rage and got cut down exactly by stating "x by y"
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #51 on: March 30, 2011, 06:52:44 pm »

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This is a game where the units get used for things. What you suggested is economics as part of a world market. The similarities between the two are absolutely nothing.


The world economy is a place where certain economic applications get used for things. What you suggested is a unit as part of the metagame. The similarities between the two are convincing.
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spinn72 Offline
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« Reply #52 on: March 30, 2011, 10:30:30 pm »

It's always been a trade off, m10's speed for m18's cloak. Hawkins mine + rangers/ab is always a nice combo. It's an underused unit which is surprising. I might start bringing them back then post a detailed response as to their effectiveness in my humble opinion!
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« Reply #53 on: March 30, 2011, 10:54:56 pm »

Spinn, I'm planning the same!

Onwards to M18 mediocrity!!
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Scotzmen Offline
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« Reply #54 on: March 30, 2011, 11:36:13 pm »

Use them religiously now Wink
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« Reply #55 on: March 31, 2011, 12:31:42 am »

iu love m-18's the 46 sight and the hawk mines are very underrated

and if you run snipers they have a nice .66 acc vs bikes n such.

thats compared to .33 for m-10.
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"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"

Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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« Reply #56 on: March 31, 2011, 08:11:36 am »

I just popped out of a game where I used five hellcats, for what they cost they're damn good, I see them like STuG's: cheap and good in numbers. I used them ALL with Hawkins mines and around 12 engineer mines, and had absolutely no difficulty in taking down 4 tigers in a 2v2. Hellcats seem to be able to range Tigers, and by attacking Tigers, they try to rush at you, so all you have to do is lead them towards Hawkins mines and your Hellcat is basically a cheaper Firefly. For 10 pop, this tank is a damn good investment. With HVAP it'd be nasty!
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« Reply #57 on: March 31, 2011, 08:23:15 am »

well theres not rly a point in kiting a tiger with the m18 though. It wont penetrate anyway. unless you use cloak.
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« Reply #58 on: March 31, 2011, 09:49:56 am »

well theres not rly a point in kiting a tiger with the m18 though. It wont penetrate anyway. unless you use cloak.

he's not trying to penetrate, he's baiting. If i saw an m18 shooting front ways at my tiger i might attack as well and laugh while doing it, thats what hes trying to make u do
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puddin Offline
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« Reply #59 on: March 31, 2011, 10:20:29 am »

so the tank is only good if you purchase the hawkins mine upgrade? 

IT still can;t take on a P4 reliably.
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Puddin' spamtm
i cant really blame smokaz i mean playing against puddin is like trying to fight off breast cancer. You might win and do it and be a bad ass but you'll feel sick and mutilated forever.

Puddin' spamtm is soulcrushing... what's hard to understand about that?
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