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« Reply #60 on: April 22, 2011, 08:24:42 am »

volks why do you keep going to vcoh balance when it has nothing to do with the balance in EiRR?

Because in some cases, it still holds true. Ergo, sprint setting suppression threshholds to 0. And PGs beat rifles just as badly there as they do here, that was my only point.
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« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2011, 08:28:12 am »

Because in some cases, it still holds true. Ergo, sprint setting suppression threshholds to 0. And PGs beat rifles just as badly there as they do here, that was my only point.

You do realize that PE inf in VCoH has less HP and Soldier armor instead of 80 HP per man and Infantry Armor right?

Plus you can suppress sprinting infantry, it takes more time though.
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« Reply #62 on: April 22, 2011, 08:47:35 am »

I know about the HP and armor changes, I'm not that slow. And from what people or posting 'longer time' isnt long enough; still registering as having no effect. So IMO, its the same thing :3.
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« Reply #63 on: April 22, 2011, 10:00:09 am »

I know about the HP and armor changes, I'm not that slow. And from what people or posting 'longer time' isnt long enough; still registering as having no effect. So IMO, its the same thing :3.

Except that being suppressed half as fast and being unsuppressable are two completely different things...

Just like taking half damage and being invulnearable are two different things.

And vCoH holds only enough relevance to being the same engine. Making allusions to it's balance and metagame, however, is absolutely pointless.
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« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2011, 10:03:25 am »

Its -50% suppression in sprint and -25% from vet sgt. Cmon guys I am pretty sure the devs said they will nerf the double bonus they get soon. No need to begin to rage so hard.
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« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2011, 11:52:58 am »

I love how nug took ONE part of my quote, and left out the part of my rifles having T3 giving them a (supposed) edge.

if i had been fighting 2 volks squads or two gren squads the outcome would of been totally different, and that's where the problem lies. And that isn't even counting the fact that they have sprint as well.

Either way I think they will be fine once they have their sprint thing fixed, or if they got exhaustion, or HP was slightly decreased. They should either be weaker infantry with a sprint ability or they should be stronger infantry with out it, they shouldn't have both since they are mainline. And why are they constantly being compared with rangers and AB? They should ONLY be compared with rifles/tommys/grens/volks.
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« Reply #66 on: April 22, 2011, 01:33:11 pm »

if i had been fighting two gren squads the outcome would of been totally different.

Yeah. The grenadiers would have raped the riflemen even faster on the count of having significantly better armament.

Please guys. Just because I'm largely gone from the forums doesn't mean you should insult my legacy by making unfounded statements. The possibility of me coming back in a fiery rage of stats tables and functional 2-page analyses of a single weapon being thrown about in the face of the no-stat heathens grows ever so much higher with each such unbased post.

And you don't want the 2000-3000 word posts to come back, do you?
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« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2011, 01:45:55 pm »

And you don't want the 2000-3000 word posts to come back, do you?

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« Reply #68 on: April 22, 2011, 02:30:16 pm »

Who is that chick? That is some awesome song writing.
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« Reply #69 on: April 22, 2011, 02:56:32 pm »

Some one hit wonder that swept over iceland 3-4 years ago but her music is quite good in my opinion.
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« Reply #70 on: April 22, 2011, 04:35:21 pm »

I dont know what you guys like but i dont like that song
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« Reply #71 on: April 22, 2011, 04:37:53 pm »

Diffrent tastes.
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« Reply #72 on: April 22, 2011, 04:39:44 pm »

nah duh!
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« Reply #73 on: April 22, 2011, 05:15:06 pm »

why are pgrens 5 pop now?  Thats awful
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« Reply #74 on: April 22, 2011, 05:32:17 pm »

They "buffed" it

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