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TheVolskinator Offline
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« on: April 24, 2011, 06:42:30 am »

Oversupplied would replace the Riflemen's SL's carbine with an M1 Garand instead of a third BAR. Instead of two failzookas, you'd get a bazooka and stickies for less of a cost then choosing the two seperately. Engies lose 1 squad member and gain a second flamepwner?

Squad leaders: Replace SL weapons with a Sten (CW), Thompson (US), MP40 (WM) or STG44 (PE) for all base squads (aesthetically; all weapons would have the same stats as a (respectively) Lee-Enfield, Carbine, Leader MP44, or PE Kar98k). For the case of WM, possibly make a model/skin of a Feldwebel (see the Blitzkrieg mod's Stormtrooper Officer, used a volksgrenadier model and a new skin and it worked quite well). My reasoning is, irl, squad leaders or junior officers (Unteroffizier [Cpl], Feldwebel [Sgt or "Field Sergeant"]) wore Kepi-style hats instead of steilhelms ,at least on the western front (which would be the uniform worn by volks, historically they look like a squad of 5 JCOs!). Once the warmup hits the field, it might be a nice touch.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2011, 07:38:57 am »

I just say bring back AssultRiflemen.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2011, 08:38:03 am »

Oversupplied is a buff its not supposed to unlock anything.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2011, 08:50:32 am »

Why you trying to change everything to how you want it?
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2011, 09:33:28 am »

bar or garand? hmmm, which do i want?

in reality i think oversupplied should work like this (in conjunction with the top T3 unlock that gives grease guns & such)

grease guns should be 55mu and rifles should only get 4, and over supplied should give 2 grease guns and 2 thompsons rather than 1 extra.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2011, 09:35:44 am »

that would be pretty sweet actually. Who wants the extra grease gun, exchange it for thompsons.

Also OS is fine Volks. Infantry is one of the more balanced companies. The only thing that needs to be changed is allied grit which is crap
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2011, 10:17:35 am »

I only suggested it because Ive heard plenty of griping about 3 BARs. And it seems a bit overkill on the side of AI firepower. Im not trying to change it to how I like, and saying I am makes you the troll, not me. I'm suggesting this stuff to see if anyone else is interested in mostly aestetic changes; apparently I can go fuck myself for wanting a little something different. Sorry for posting at all, you can draw your C&C from thin air in that case.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2011, 10:34:12 am »

Aesthetic changes? You think people are really gonna notice their SL has a slightly different gun? I'd much rather the time spent doing it went elsewhere.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2011, 10:45:32 am »

I do. I pride myself on being able to pick out which squad picked up a single BAR or has a G43 by default within a blob (without seeing the icon; e.g. panicing or microing something intensively and instinctively going 'ffffff that squad has a g43, its more damaging, its my #1 priority target for my sherman/riflemen/MG/mortar/whatever'.

EDIT: this takes the place of a paragraph of me just beating around the bush. Trust me, youre not missing much.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2011, 10:54:43 am »

You said aesthetic changes, and now you're talking about more firepower? Make up your mind man. And seriously, you're comparing changing a few pixels in a game to changing a countries flag or revolution of politics? The actual fuck? Btw, you're gonna br so mad when you find out who I really am Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2011, 10:58:18 am »

F it, post removed. Im taking out all the stops to argue over aestetic changes in a video game? Toning back the logic Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 11:07:37 am »

Yes changing a weapon model is the same as the revolutionary war  Roll Eyes

I think what Mister (and correct me if I'm wrong)  is saying is you're taking up "valuable" space by suggesting these pointless changes when most people are more concerned with balance changes and such.

tbh, dont get discouraged, there's bound to be an idea that people pick up on.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2011, 11:10:04 am »

I doubt so on that last part, but meh. Suggest 1000 things and at least one gets looked at eventually, right?  Grin

EDIT: Read my last post before this; any mods on the forum feel free to close/remove this thread. In a larger picture yeah, it can wait till balance is finalized, till then we can *all* stop bitching about the small stuff.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2011, 11:34:29 am »

I doubt so on that last part, but meh. Suggest 1000 things and at least one gets looked at eventually, right?  Grin


totally true

im not sure how long mister has been around for, but people like me have seen all sorts of threads like these come and go.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2011, 12:28:43 pm »

I like oversupplied as is, no need to make it more complicated with your proposed change.  That path in US infantry is meant to focus on more Anti-Inf firepower.. hence the +bar and +smg, though I would like it if they add the single smg back to my bazooka rangers.
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2011, 12:33:47 pm »

my only problem with over supply is the bar vs greaseguns, there isn't any real reason to get grease guns over bars unless you are being really cheap.
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2011, 01:46:24 pm »

Greaseguns hit harder than Mp40s, and are cheaper MU wise...
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2011, 02:12:28 pm »

my only problem with over supply is the bar vs greaseguns, there isn't any real reason to get grease guns over bars unless you are being really cheap.

personally i would rather take Grease Guns over bars for the sole fact that i can arm alot more of my rifles then i can with bars.
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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2011, 09:13:59 pm »

personally i would rather take Grease Guns over bars for the sole fact that i can arm alot more of my rifles then i can with bars.

YOu would have to go over 4 inf to make up the difference. So for every 5inf with grease i got 4 with bars. 15 mu isnt a big difference. Especially when that 15 mu gets you suppress and longer range.

But ya ive been raped by mp40s when i had bars. So... maybe it has its place.
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2011, 02:18:36 am »

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But ya ive been raped by mp40s when i had bars. So... maybe it has its place.

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