Team Awareness (common sense)

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[TheIcelandicManiac]

I have been playing this mod now for enough time so at least few in the community know who i am and how i roll but i just want to ask the community to do something that will improve upon all of the players experience while playing this mod.



1.  Many times i have bumped into people(even pros) that just don't communicate to me or my teammates and leave us unable to know what he has and if he has something that can improve our ability to fight with out units but mostly what i am talking about are Healcars And Triages.
I have been playing this mod for a long time now and i still always bump into people who have healcars, triages ,CCSs and other that can heal my units and help me in fighting the enemy but after so much time of endlessly saying again and again to let your teammates know about something like this for many times, thankfully I don't end up with this problem anymore for i have gotten so used to it that i always look at my teammates troops and if something weird is going on with their units like seeing almost dead unit come around and see it has full health and this i also do with my enemy to see if he has something of a triage or and Healcar But still even tough I have been using a "Dead" squad for almost 10 minutes or he can clearly see a weak unit that i am using he still does not tell me about his Healcar or Healcrates.

Basic:Please tell me about your triages, CCSs or healcars if you are on my side for it can improve my ability to defend your units and do better on the battlefield and please if you have an almost dead squad of airborne RR  with 5 men and i just told you that i have a triage please go heal Instead of going at that single panther for they are gonna die so it's just stupid on your part and is just costing you munitions you could have kept and used to kill the panther when your teammates came up to help you.


2. Please tell me if you are firing an arty strike anywhere on the map for it can help me focus an attack and make me avoid that specific area for a while being so i don't run into your barrage or scare the enemy away just before You fire that barrage.
 Gork off all people learned this when i asked him to point out to where he was firing that barrage, Gork of all people, he is the guy that was always firing and spamming offmaps and arty but at least he had the common courtesy to tell his teammates where he was dropping them(most of the time when i played with him) and it helped his teammates to attack and do a presise attack on his enemy's while all of the atguns or mgs where down so they could push into the enemy without landing in a hail of offmaps that could crash a computer.

Basic: If you are dropping an arty barrage or some shit like that warn them about it not just watch and wait when he runs into it without knowing.


I bet no one can read this for i have no idea what i just wrote exept a mild anger statement


THIS IS TO EVERYONE THAT PLAYS THIS MOD FOR I HAVE NOTICED ALMOST NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING IN MOST GAMES EXEPT WHEN THEY ASK FOR HELP WITH AN ATTACK WHEN YOU ARE ON THE OTHER FUCKING SIDE ON THE MAP!!


Sorry for typos and really shitty grammar too tough.


Well i hope someone is able to read this shit and learn something from it

[PonySlaystation]

*common sense
*experience
*always
*problem
*almost
*also
*avoid
*courtesy
*at least
*precise
*basically
*except
*though

[TheIcelandicManiac]

You may gladly rewrite the whole thing if you want and i shall copy paste it where i wrote my text

[PonySlaystation]

nah, it was just those words and now you know how to spell them.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Yea thanks for that but i am too lazy to fix that shit

[Demon767]

um, stop QQ and get your own healing devices? You dont need for them to tell you, battlefield awareness, you should always be surveying the battlefield all the time, not focusing on where your units are.

You're doing something wrong with arty, ive never had the problem of running into my own team mates arty. you are in command of your forces, so if you run into your own team mates arty, that is your own fault of not having battlefield awareness.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

First: how am i suppose to have an healing device If i am TH or Armor doctrine or anything,
Secokond: yes i do allways take a look out what my teammates have but it would make it easyer to just tell me where it is instead of me being forced to look for something that i dont know exists.
third: I do allways awoyde my allies arty, stuka or neb barrages but FFs it gets Fuckign anoying when you are attacking with your inf and an Nebel barrage land ontop of my troops instead of my enemy for My Teammate did not think about MY Troops that were moving out nad trying to attack and instead tough i shouldstay back, how the fuck am i suppose to know that?
i have never been more annoyed when i say attacking and my teammates Drop offmaps or onmaps on my fucking head without warning but could have just told me and i would have halted the attack instead of rushing into the fucking barrage.

So no its my teammates fault for launching that fucking barrage in the first place and not telling me.

[TheVolskinator]

Icelandic actually has good points. Atm I'm on page 3 of a 20-something page PDF on some basic communications and tactics (formations, attacking, defending, and so on. Advanced shit, mind you, not 'flank an MG with two squads'), I'll be sure to add in a section devoted to battlefield awareness and the like; so many times some braindead twat on my team fires his callie into my forces, because he failed to notice me A) asking for help, B) advancing, C) clearing out the enemy and D) securing the area so the rest of the team could move up as well. Same for poorly-aimed offmaps...

[spinn72]

Dude, you shouldn't be playing with people who drop artillery on your own units, that's like rule -1 in any game.. Don't kill your own units!

I find that if they're unwilling to communicate, you just communicate the whole game so at least THEY know what you have, and will hopefully bring on productive units. There is nothing wrong with spamming markers and the chat log. I have very rarely met a teammate that is completely unwilling to listen to my advice and will just go off and do his own thing (with the exception of maybe two players, who I won't list). Most of the time, you'll rub off on your teammates and they'll start chatting back.

Start chatting with them in team chat in CoH before the game even starts, work out doctrines, heavy tanks and offmaps. This will firstly let you know if your teammate is hostile or not (so that you can decide whether to support them) or if they're willing to work with you (so they will be more willing to listen to markers and support you).

[RikiRude]

The problem with this post is that the people who are actually going to read it are the people who don't need the advice!!

When I play I almost always before the round starts let my team know what doctrine I'm running and I ask them what doctrine they are running. If I have any kind of heal unit I usually open up with it and I let my team mates know what I'm putting it. And through out the game I remind them just in case. Hey idiot, I see you have a bren tommy squad with 4 dudes and 1/4 health, heal them here *then give a beep on the map so they know where*

arty, i do my best to say, im dropping arty in this spot, and i do that before i fire, unless i see a prime target that needs to be hit immediately. also if im not sure where to hit ill ask my team mates where the best spot to fire on is.

part of this is battlefield awareness and the other half is communication, many times i have seen a team that you think is going to lose in launcher win because all 3 people were on vent and communicating, rather than the 3 players with better micro or more vet.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Bump

[skaffa]

use tacmap for pro map awareness

[TheIcelandicManiac]

That i do by pressing 0 on my Numpad and that way i can take a look at my enemys and teammates but it dose not tell me all the story about what is going on.

[deadbolt]

*second
*easier
*always
*avoid
*fucking
*annoying
*a
*lands

[TheIcelandicManiac]

As i said with pony you are welcome to rewrite the whole thing or improove it and i shall copy paste it where you want it to(aslong it has something to do with something)

[TheVolskinator]

TBH, pretty much every player with a healing device will ping the exact location where it is and then type 'Healcar', 'CCS', 'Triage' etc or use a mic. I dont run into issues with healing so much as issues with idiot teammates charging shit peicemeil or calling in hordes of riflemen to fight off P4s and shit.

[Mister Schmidt]

Sounds like your tactics Volsk!

[TheIcelandicManiac]

TBH, pretty much every player with a healing device will ping the exact location where it is and then type 'Healcar', 'CCS', 'Triage' etc or use a mic.

The reason why i started this thread in the first place was becouse 3 games in a row i had beeen playing with people that did not do that but instead let me use halfdead units becouse he had a heal car but he ender losing it to a atgun becouse he used it as a sniper hunter.

[M1d]

You do realise people only give you shit about your grammar because you bite so hard?

Don't rise to it every time. Lol.

[Unkn0wn]

Moved to strategy and cleaned the trolls