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« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2011, 10:07:46 am »

How to Fix Stummel

In the ebps under hit_object change the projectile_pass_through entry tp_homing from true to false.

Change range from 50-40 or 45
(it's a short barrell gun, it shouldn't have same range as a long barrell 75mm howitzer gun)

Lower Penetration  Right now its the exact same as the 50mm Puma (.76087, .89 and 1.0)
It also does 100% of its damage against tanks if its penetration, which is unlike the leig and 75mm gmc which get lower dmgs vs vehicles. (gmc usually around .75 and leig .5)

Also change it so it's a barrage type weapon rather than homing ballistic
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« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2011, 12:45:13 pm »

i have to agree with tym changes. With its penetration it's far too multipurpose.
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« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2011, 01:00:21 pm »

that is more like tyms guide "how to make a unit completely useless"

 Cheesy

stummel will be worse than flammen halftrack

stummel and gmc need huge range because of their low fireing cone

if you blob less stummel does not kill to much and m10 can kill it pretty fast
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« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2011, 01:16:51 pm »

blobbing have nothing to do with it, when it wrecks a squad it doesn't matter. atg and .30 w/AP rounds dont do anything because they get killed quite easily, m10 will miss a bit before its actually dead and its done its damage. and obviously the way its firing is a bug, so either way it will see a change soon.
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« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2011, 01:28:13 pm »

i would recommend to you to try the units yourself first against good players
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« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2011, 02:32:31 pm »

Tym's point is valid; I play Amis 90% o/t time and PE the other 9% (1% WM doesnt count). So I can say I'm fairly fond of PE and hopefully not biased too badly. Anywho, everything he's said is 100 true. IMO, stummel would work well with Luft's hit-and-run-or-ambush tactics, no need to give SE more AI, or to made TH too well rounded. Lower range, arty type balistics, and remove the phasing shite so ATGs dont miss 60% of the time. They do run in pairs and when they do (with an added clown car with dual pzshrecks) more or less everything you have in teh way of units short of mines or a pershing/FF is voided as useless.

EDIT: Fixed to Gren's preferances. Happy m8? Yeesh.
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« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2011, 02:36:17 pm »

Do you even read the thread? The Stummel already has 50 Range and not 60, the GMC is supposed to have 60. Also the point of it being a 50mm gun is totally irrelevant, this game is not about realism.
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« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2011, 02:38:51 pm »

-facedesk- Ok, I missed the post about the range. Nvm that. Not about realism you say? No shit. Yes, I do read the thread Gren.
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« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2011, 02:46:55 pm »

Then stop posting about realism kthxbye
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BigDick
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« Reply #49 on: May 01, 2011, 03:14:18 pm »

IMO, stummel would work well with Luft's hit-and-run-or-ambush tactics, no need to give SE more AI, or to made TH too well rounded.

luftwaffe has already the wirblewind as some kind of light AI doctrine vehicle

the pe is a bit like americans

TH = Armor
Luftwaffe = Airborne
Scorched Earth = Infantry

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and remove the phasing shite so ATGs dont miss 60% of the time.

ATG don't phase trough only RRs
they just miss quite a bit like all atguns do on long range against light vehicles
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« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2011, 05:11:43 pm »

luftwaffe has already the wirblewind as some kind of light AI doctrine vehicle

the pe is a bit like americans

TH = Armor
Luftwaffe = Airborne
Scorched Earth = Infantry

ATG don't phase trough only RRs
they just miss quite a bit like all atguns do on long range against light vehicles

no, atg do phase through. The thing about Puma armor is, if you dont roll a hit, you won't hit it, so if you fire an atg shot and no hit is rolled but the Puma moves into the way of the shot, it wont hit it, same with RR's, zooks, and tank shots although it mainly shows with RR's because RR's excel at hitting through scatter
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« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2011, 04:47:36 am »

-facedesk- Ok, I missed the post about the range. Nvm that. Not about realism you say? No shit. Yes, I do read the thread Gren.
Please tell me this is artekases son
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« Reply #52 on: May 02, 2011, 05:08:12 am »

Please tell me this is artekases son

Ahaha Artekas!

That stupid braindead wannabe dev who thought he knew it all within a week of coming here is the reason I ragequit the mod ages ago. Did he die or something?
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« Reply #53 on: May 02, 2011, 05:19:59 am »

EDIT: Fixed to Gren's preferances. Happy m8? Yeesh.
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« Reply #54 on: May 02, 2011, 05:21:17 am »

...And someones EiRR career is about to be ruined.


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« Reply #55 on: May 02, 2011, 05:23:33 am »

Om nom nom Compromise
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« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2011, 05:27:38 am »

I don't mind Volsk. He just needs to remember this isn't CoH and he'll be fine.

Artekas however...

FUCK.
Seriously, biggest douche I have ever come across during my time on this mod.
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« Reply #57 on: May 02, 2011, 05:28:33 am »

Nominate him for the BDIU
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« Reply #58 on: May 02, 2011, 05:29:44 am »

Nominate him for the BDIU
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« Reply #59 on: May 02, 2011, 05:34:13 am »

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