Tymathee
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2011, 02:51:37 am » |
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actually +50 on persh would just about do it so u can't have a callie but to be honest, that's a lot of riflemen, i tried a callie dual persh company and the rest of it was pretty much riflemen and atgs gets kinda lame, i hate spam.
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"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2011, 03:54:36 pm » |
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i love panthers and they are great tanks but of recent i have found them to not be as capable as they were. one thing that really gets me is US armour HVAP gives pershing a bonus vs all heavies including the panther. i really find that it should't be included in with the the other axis heavies as it doesn't have the massive health and the great armour which isn't so great atm as i don't see it bouncing heaps of the frontal armour anymore.
to sum it all up something has changed and i feel like the panther needs some love.
true it did get a price decrease.
Dont extrapolate one Hard counter doctrine vs Panther to be the most important part of its general performance Thanks, /thread Whos balance section moderator? You bad |
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2011, 04:24:14 pm » |
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Smokaz you necro'd this and you don't think there is anything UP or Op about the subject?
You must be fucking ill!
Take your meds now.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2011, 04:24:58 pm » |
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what? it was one the left side page
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2011, 04:25:32 pm » |
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Can't you see your blabbering like a madman?
Look at the date!
YOUVE GONE MAD!
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2011, 04:34:25 pm » |
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moved to balance
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RikiRude
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2011, 09:46:36 pm » |
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panther isn't terrible at killing ai either. sometimes they do pretty fantastic against infantry if they get the right rolls or are already damaged enough.
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2011, 09:48:27 pm » |
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panther isn't terrible at killing ai either. sometimes they do pretty fantastic against infantry if they get the right rolls or are already damaged enough.
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« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2011, 01:59:02 am » |
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i say change pricing of pershing and tiger a bit
currently the panther is okish priced in its role fighting tanks up to shermans
the problem starts when dual pershing companies hit the field...pershings are almost same price and rape armor and infantry
making tigers a bit more expensive will also make the p4 and panther a bit more attractive
conclusion: tiger and pershing needs a price increase that will fix that 99% of armor and blitz companies will only use tigers and pershings
Tiger and Pershing are T3 unlocks... They are supposed to be better than panther... |
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« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2011, 02:50:58 am » |
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As mysthalin said: retarded balance suggestions...
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nugnugx
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« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2011, 04:58:23 am » |
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Tiger and Pershing are T3 unlocks... They are supposed to be better than panther...
And is Tiger better than Panther ? panther isn't terrible at killing ai either. sometimes they do pretty fantastic against infantry if they get the right rolls or are already damaged enough. more proof Tiger needs buffing.... in the AT department or survivability department. Tiger compared to Panther just does not feel it does anything better. In fact it does worse. AT ? Panther has 47 range and its pen and 137 dmg gun is enough to go against any allied tank. AI ? buy an mg42 and drive over inf, Panther will snipe inf also, having 10+ inf kills on panther is something i usualy have. Survivability? Panther is a lot faster, has better armor, 300 HP difference of Tiger imo is redeemed by speed. Price? Panther is a lot cheaper for what it does than Tiger. |
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« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2011, 05:14:10 am » |
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axis armors get penetreated by all ally armor including light vehicles ,tiger isn't up to the job and ally armor with Hvap rounds no chance what so ever  and yeah panther far more better than tiger ,its just get overwelmed by ally armors |
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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2011, 05:25:35 am » |
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i fully agree that the panther is better then the tiger.
i had a tiger company but the tiger cant deal with all allied tanks, fireflys are a really big prob for it and the speed against m10s is pretty bad. the range is horrible to be honest coz a hellcat can even kill a tiger coz its range advantage.
compared to the panther the panther is fast, can deal with the fireflys m10s and hellcats.
so u can use them better, while tiger will get just a prob for urself tbh
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« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2011, 09:31:33 am » |
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I dont see how poeple cannot deal with tanks with tigers lmao, keep a bike on the field, see the FF, kite out of its range and avoid it, its what teamates are for, any other allied tank and tiger rofls over it. Panthers are not very usefull for what you pay, its purley an anti tank platform, it used to be alot more usefull when every single allied tank didnt get penetration buffs. And i didnt know untill recently, hellcats got retarded lmao, they almost 3 shot a P4.
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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2011, 10:59:53 am » |
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panther better than tiger? i say bullshit....
panther is getting raped by pershings, its not even funny anymore
playing with your panthers a 2 pershing company its GG already u don't even need to start the game
it complete sucks vs infantry....
furthermore its getting raped by 1 ATGs (low HP) and can't do shit vs that ATG while a tiger has at least some chances to decrew it
1 tiger is 2-3 times better than a panther
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« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2011, 11:32:13 am » |
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gg bigdick in countering atgs with tanks.
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« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2011, 11:40:58 am » |
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rofl where did i said that i counter ATGs with tanks noob?
when i attack i keep my units together
if you support a tiger to break through a defense position the tiger has good chances to have an atg decrewed until your inf can reach it....
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« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2011, 11:42:49 am » |
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Ok.
You all our blowing it out of proportion.
Panther isnt way better than a tiger.
and a tiger isnt 2x better than a panther.
M10 and M18 cant kill a tiger by outranging it. Never ever has that happened. The penetration chances are just arnt favorable for long range to beat it before a pak38 comes.
The Panther cant kill infantry nearly as good as you guys say. Yeah it snipes a dude occasionally, but the tiger constantly scores multiple kills against infantry.
And yes bigdick is right, Tiger>panther in the VS Pershing matchup.
Pershing penetrates panther much easier than it penetrates a tiger.
And tiger, although it has 7.5 less range than a panther, actualy has higher DPS than a panther in the AT matchup, and when 2 m10s flank you and beat on that rear armour, the tiger will prove to be better.
Tiger and Panther seem quite balanced really.
They have there advantages and disadvantages.
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« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2011, 11:45:39 am » |
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And yes bigdick is right, Tiger>panther in the VS Pershing matchup.
Biggest bullshit I've ever heard, panther >>>> tiger vs Pershing |
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« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2011, 11:47:44 am » |
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lol
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