[Axis] Assualt ability

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[Scotzmen]

Assualt/inc assualt is canceled out when commando squads smoke, or anything cloaks really. It also doesnt work on emplacements, or genrelly when you cancel it or use another ability like sprint. Its a waste of 50 munis aswell.  

I have a feeling not getting the ability back after you order them to is ment to be that way, or you could constantly get them back by canceling the order after throwing a few of the nades.

I propse you lessen the number of nades thrown to 2 or 3, if we can cancel the ability and get it back, to lessen the risk of the spamming.

You thoughts on this?

P.S Inc assualt covers the AT Nade ability on panzer grens to BTW

[Hicks58]

Commando smoke, garrisoning buildings or vehicles, sniper cloaking... They all break assault. I wouldn't want this changed purely because that 50 munitions is an I-win button.

Players should be rewarded for thinking on their feet, and if your sharp enough to take advantage of the environment or an ability you have, you deserve to get a good outcome.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Assults nades were nerfed into oblivion.
thats why.

[TheVolskinator]

This 'bug' has been part of vcoh and mod play since CoH came out. Volksspam + ass nade spam is so easy to pull off :| so of course hopping into a building or cloaking should break it, what Hicks said is 110% correct, +1!!

[Unkn0wn]

It's not really a bug, it's intended AFAIK.

[LeoPhone]

I thought about changing assault to this:

fireup like ability with the normal assault defensive buffs
+ enables 2/3x basic grenade throw ability for the time ability is actuve

[BigDick]

hopping into building is ok canceling it but the commando smoke should not break it

[Vermillion_Hawk]

Assault grenades are too spammable anyways, equipping them on even lowly Volksgrenadiers can result in the deaths of one or more squads of elite infantry. When I'm fighting against assault spam (MorkaandBorka I'm looking at you), it seems like it doesn't matter how much I try to run, the grenades just heat-seek towards my squad and kill or suppress (pretty much death) my infantry. Commandos and Rangers especially cost way too much to be killed by assault grenades, which in comparison at their least expensive cost 190 MP and 60 MU (volks squad with assault).

[puddin]

hopping into building is ok canceling it but the commando smoke should not break it

And why?  They can not be seen... But hey the nades should follow them around....
What kind of useless ass sense does that make?

[Vermillion_Hawk]

And why?  They can not be seen... But hey the nades should follow them around....
What kind of useless ass sense does that make?

Heat-seeking grenades that kill British ninjas?

[MorkaandBorka]

Assault grenades are too spammable anyways, equipping them on even lowly Volksgrenadiers can result in the deaths of one or more squads of elite infantry. When I'm fighting against assault spam (MorkaandBorka I'm looking at you), it seems like it doesn't matter how much I try to run, the grenades just heat-seek towards my squad and kill or suppress (pretty much death) my infantry. Commandos and Rangers especially cost way too much to be killed by assault grenades, which in comparison at their least expensive cost 190 MP and 60 MU (volks squad with assault).

I mean there isnt much someone can do really, even if they did nerf assault its to easy and awesome to not use.  Sure you can just run away your troops and bring a tank to run over my troops...but I can just stop assault and use the volks to go pick up some weapons, so consider it a win win either way.  But they did nerf it alot so at least that's good?

[Scotzmen]

fireup like ability with the normal assault defensive buffs
+ enables 2/3x basic grenade throw ability for the time ability is actuve

That sounds pretty good leo, i wouldnt mind aussualt changing to that

[Vermillion_Hawk]

I'd like anything better than the current state the ability is in now. That, or increase the price tag, since 50 MU to kill a 300 MP 90-210 MU squad is too much.

[AmPM]

I'd like anything better than the current state the ability is in now. That, or increase the price tag, since 50 MU to kill a 300 MP 90-210 MU squad is too much.

Only if you sit still, against a good player its 50mu for maybe 1 dead guy.

[NightRain]

The major usefulness of assault is when it is on Volks. You see a bar squad. They go immediately "OLOLOLOL EZYTAAGET" and hit SF. Once volks are suppressed they automatically come to close range. Pop assault and they go "wut is...ASSAULT OP" tru story

[MorkaandBorka]

Jesus...please make a new thread about SF guys, dont bother talking about SF in here anymore.

Anyways theres no real point to nerfing assault, they only throw the 5 nades and thats it now, so all you have to do (apparently) is just run the other way or even run into the volks throwing the nades?  Once that happens they throw nades at themselves.

[Unkn0wn]

Thread cleaned, stay on topic.

[Vermillion_Hawk]

Well I don't know about the rest of you but it seems whenever I encounter assault grenades, they always seem to home right in on my squad and land right on top of them, no matter how fast my guys may be running or which direction. I was of the opinion that maybe the targetting trajectory is off, because when I played vCoH and CoHO the assault grenades would always fall short if you moved your guys away.

[smurfORnot]

erm,ass nades will land on you if you stand still,I lost so many of them only to rifles etc. just moving back,nothin else...

[Vermillion_Hawk]

I know, what I'm saying is the grenades land on my troops and suppress/kill them even if they are running!