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Question: You're in a very tough 3v3 as the allies playing on tanteville... Its 10 mins ingame, you just got kicked out of Town and one of your ally brings out 3 Howitzers.
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cloud234 Offline
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« on: June 12, 2011, 07:01:50 am »

So, what do you guys think?

ALSO!!!

Your ally either brings out pure M8s, or pure rifles, or rangers with thompsons and bazookas. He proceeds to get them all killed throughout the game without much damage.
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Rahx Offline
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 07:03:54 am »

I would offmap his howitzers
and blow it up with satchels or demos

then all of the above...
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 07:06:15 am »

I dont understand this thread? makes no sense
Your ally either brings out pure M8s, or pure rifles, or rangers with thompsons and bazookas. He proceeds to get them all killed throughout the game without much damage.

I would proceed to support him so i am not able to say "its his fault that he got all his units killed throughout the game", only a noob would let your team mate faulter so badly. and if he is attacking fanatically i would also join him in his fanatic offensive. Its fun. I also find people self centered if they cant accept a way someone plays, sure they dont play like you do, but if they are loosing units because you are not playing the team game, you're more at fault then the person you are accusing.

As i said, its a team game, if you lose, the whole team as a whole is to blame. no one is stopping you from balancing out your team mates company choice, nor is it his fault that he wants to attack so fanaitically when you're sitting back like a british cunt general sipping your delicate tea watching fucking aussies being butched on the hill 200 metres from the british command post.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 07:06:52 am »

See here

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=19581.msg342031;topicseen#new
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 07:20:41 am »

If your team mate brings out 3 howi's without your knowledge, what you DONT do is bitch and whine to the player that it was a bad decision. The fact is, it happen, what you do is adapt, and how do you adapt when your team mate brings 3 howi's on the field? you start playing a defensive game where you force the enemy to sit and camp while your team mates pick at the enemy defences.

Any strat, idiot or stupid, can catch players off guard and win the game.

its simple and you should remember this quote

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spinn72 Offline
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2011, 07:25:20 am »

CARRY THE TEAM TO AN EVEN MORE GLORIOUS VICTORY THAN WHAT I HAD PREVIOUSLY EXPECTED.
Seriously, play nice.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2011, 07:37:56 am »

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00:41:37 [All] Micro1Nostack1Nospam: the team dies with me
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2011, 08:11:21 am »

The chatlog was quite funny TBH


Annya was a complete Bitch


00:00:07 [Team] FraxinusJerichanus: dropping here
00:00:07 [Team] FraxinusJerichanus: ab
00:00:09 [Team] KamfgruppeHolt: i has 1 MI
00:00:30 [Team] cloud09: yup
00:00:40 [Team] KamfgruppeHolt: this is going to be interseting
00:00:54 [Team] cloud09: its gg
00:01:47 [Team] cloud09: mines
00:02:24 [Team] Jstek: good sthuff here
00:03:11 [Team] KamfgruppeHolt: howie
00:03:15 [Team] cloud09: rrs
00:03:22 [Team] KamfgruppeHolt: grabing it
00:03:27 [Team] FraxinusJerichanus: idiot
00:03:36 [Team] cloud09: have un
00:03:40 [Whisper] MadmanBishop: you in europe in ruins?
00:03:45 [Team] cloud09: there was zero resistance
00:03:46 [Team] cloud09: it was weird
00:03:52 [Whisper to] MadmanBishop: yep
00:03:54 [Team] cloud09: okay maybe not
00:03:59 [Team] cloud09: hetzers plix
00:04:05 [Whisper] MadmanBishop: how much longer till your done with your match?
00:04:09 [Team] cloud09: lol RR rape
00:04:13 [Team] cloud09: awesome chaps
00:04:17 [Whisper to] MadmanBishop: not too long i think
00:04:34 [Whisper] MadmanBishop: k, come to teamspek when your done, if you wanna play a match
00:04:56 [Team] cloud09: buttrape no lub
00:05:06 [Team] KamfgruppeHolt: if you say so
00:06:26 [Team] Annya: dude wtf are you doing?
00:06:27 [Team] Annya: 3 howis
00:06:34 [Team] cloud09: mines
00:06:34 [Team] Annya: we cant defend that ya lose em in seconds
00:06:44 [Team] Jstek: only need one shot
00:08:20 [All] cloud09: lol
00:08:28 [All] Annya: such a fail teamate
00:08:32 [All] Micro1Nostack1Nospam: jstek did that to me too
00:08:34 [All] Annya: hes called on n lost 2
00:08:37 [All] Micro1Nostack1Nospam: he just wants to ruin games
00:08:38 [All] Annya: n puleld in 3 hows
00:08:41 [All] Jstek: what?
00:08:44 [Team] FraxinusJerichanus: I have not seen such a noob strat since last taught noobs
00:08:59 [All] Annya: ime making complaint about him on forum
00:09:05 [All] Annya: assholes like him ruin games
00:09:08 [All] Jstek: whatever
00:09:35 [All] cloud09: sorry about what happend
00:09:45 [All] cloud09: some players tend to hold a grudge when they don't win matches
00:09:52 [All] Annya: bah not your fault
00:10:08 [All] Annya: but srsly callin of 2 howi trucks... nouther of 3
00:10:11 [All] Annya: wtf is this ?
00:10:17 [All] cloud09: well
00:10:20 [All] Annya: there on their own now
00:10:28 [All] cloud09: i think its also because
00:10:31 [All] cloud09: of players in the community
00:10:32 [Team] FraxinusJerichanus: why the **** drop as if its my fault too?
00:10:36 [All] cloud09: who always blame their loss on spam
00:10:40 [All] cloud09: whereas in reality
00:10:50 [All] cloud09: its just lack of skills on their part
00:10:52 [All] Annya: Why callin 3? > he says "i only need one shot"
00:10:54 [All] cloud09: but it misleds other people ot think "spam" wins
00:10:58 [All] Annya: and he takes out like 2 dudes..
00:10:59 [All] Annya: wow
00:11:05 [All] Annya: **** that was worth 3x howis
00:11:06 [All] Annya: Tongue
00:11:15 [All] cloud09: i know...
00:11:47 [All] Annya: i wanna play allies jsut seems like vast majoraty of allied players suck more than a
00:11:52 [All] cloud09: ahhh
00:11:55 [All] Annya: tripple cunted hooker the day the troopps come home
00:11:56 [All] Annya: Tongue
00:12:00 [All] cloud09: its just
00:12:06 [All] cloud09: usome axis stuff are more op
00:12:21 [All] Annya: i mean look at that hes trying to range rifflement with thomps
00:12:26 [All] Annya: heavy cover v flames
00:12:34 [All] cloud09: well thompsons have always been bad
00:12:36 [All] cloud09: can't blame him for that
00:12:46 [All] cloud09: the devs dun wanna make thompsons cheaper
00:12:48 [All] Annya: can blame him for tryign to outrange riffles
00:12:50 [All] Annya: :p
00:14:02 [All] cloud09: to be hoenst the T4 leader rifles for PzGrens feels kinda powerful
00:14:23 [All] FraxinusJerichanus: well if you group them together like that with no counters lol....
00:14:30 [All] cloud09: yeah but if u brin gcounters
00:14:34 [All] cloud09: the tank busters will keep u back
00:14:40 [Team] FraxinusJerichanus: how about an MG
00:14:40 [All] cloud09: they
00:14:52 [All] Annya: its funy coz jsteks company now must be like 4/5 armoured cars n 4 howis
00:14:53 [All] Annya: dear me
00:14:54 [All] Annya: :p
00:15:12 [All] Micro1Nostack1Nospam: it would be decent with atgs i guess
00:15:18 [All] Micro1Nostack1Nospam: and mgs
00:15:21 [All] cloud09: well
00:15:25 [All] cloud09: if u add snipers
00:15:28 [All] cloud09: and stuff
00:15:30 [All] cloud09: yeah its good
00:15:41 [All] Annya: tbh if he knew how to play it at all.. steda throwing his **** away and stupid call ons
00:15:52 [All] cloud09: he does from time to time
00:15:56 [All] cloud09: just raged too hard today i guess
00:16:01 [All] Annya: dude go watch the tutorial/playthroughs on youtube
00:16:47 [Team] FraxinusJerichanus: just stop throwing vet food at them
00:16:53 [Team] FraxinusJerichanus: please
00:16:58 [Team] Annya: hes an idiot what ya expect him to do Tongue
00:17:08 [All] Jstek: why should i stop?  you guys bailed out like *******
00:17:16 [All] cloud09: well
00:17:18 [All] Annya: haha we bailed out...
00:17:23 [All] cloud09: maybe if u didn't built ur company like that...
00:17:25 [All] cloud09: and brought out 3 howies...
00:17:28 [All] Annya: you lost us this by throwing your **** at them
00:17:30 [All] cloud09: and u know...
00:17:31 [All] cloud09: Stuff.
00:17:43 [All] Jstek: i only have 3 howies, calling on one at a time is a waste IMO
00:17:46 [All] Annya: how can you think 3 how call in when we controll 20% of map and had no real units
00:17:57 [All] Annya: you charge 1/2 howi trucks at a city full of zooka houses
00:17:59 [All] cloud09: listen to the maaan
00:18:01 [All] Annya: i mean srsly
00:18:04 [All] Annya: you lost us this
00:18:06 [All] Annya: Tongue
00:18:49 [All] Annya: ya might as well get vet xD he says hes gonna feed ya
00:18:51 [All] Annya: :p
00:18:56 [All] Annya: bloody noob
00:18:57 [All] cloud09: ah well
00:18:59 [All] cloud09: can't feed anymore
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2011, 10:08:21 am »

I guess I'll start of with a little anecdote. When I first started playing EiRR, I was getting stomped nearly every game and there was a reason for it. One of the very first games I was playing I brought out two fireflies when it wasn't necessary. Instead of continuing to play, one of the players instantly retreated all of his units and proceeded to bitch me out. Rather than explaining to me what I did wrong, he refused to play altogether. It was a 3v3, so the other player on our team was kind enough to tell me what was wrong with what I was doing. Several weeks later I started to stomp the player who bitched me out at every chance I got (sadly he's rarely online anymore). I consider that event to be the point in which I started improving.

Bottom line is to tell the newbie what he's doing wrong and explain whats wrong with it. If he doesn't listen or becomes hostile, then it's your call on how you want to treat him. I know for a fact that the player with the three howies has done this before, but whether someone has told him why it was a bad idea to bring on 3 howies is something that I don't know. In the end, the worst player is the one who refuses to learn from their mistake and if he's adamant in playing his way, that doesn't mean you have to play with him.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2011, 10:10:29 am »

I guess I'll start of with a little anecdote. When I first started playing EiRR, I was getting stomped nearly every game and there was a reason for it. One of the very first games I was playing I brought out two fireflies when it wasn't necessary. Instead of continuing to play, one of the players instantly retreated all of his units and proceeded to bitch me out. Rather than explaining to me what I did wrong, he refused to play altogether. It was a 3v3, so the other player on our team was kind enough to tell me what was wrong with what I was doing. Several weeks later I started to stomp the player who bitched me out at every chance I got (sadly he's rarely online anymore). I consider that event to be the point in which I started improving.
who is it who is it ..... i bet its me
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2011, 10:40:11 am »

00:41:37 [All] Micro1Nostack1Nospam: the team dies with me

Thats how it is, but its not even from the same game!
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2011, 10:47:22 am »

I guess I'll start of with a little anecdote. When I first started playing EiRR, I was getting stomped nearly every game and there was a reason for it. One of the very first games I was playing I brought out two fireflies when it wasn't necessary. Instead of continuing to play, one of the players instantly retreated all of his units and proceeded to bitch me out. Rather than explaining to me what I did wrong, he refused to play altogether. It was a 3v3, so the other player on our team was kind enough to tell me what was wrong with what I was doing. Several weeks later I started to stomp the player who bitched me out at every chance I got (sadly he's rarely online anymore). I consider that event to be the point in which I started improving.

Bottom line is to tell the newbie what he's doing wrong and explain whats wrong with it. If he doesn't listen or becomes hostile, then it's your call on how you want to treat him. I know for a fact that the player with the three howies has done this before, but whether someone has told him why it was a bad idea to bring on 3 howies is something that I don't know. In the end, the worst player is the one who refuses to learn from their mistake and if he's adamant in playing his way, that doesn't mean you have to play with him.

This is not newbie behaviour though. The guy has said on ventrilo that he brings ridicolous companies to "counter smurfs". And then ingame he proceeds to spam m8s or howitzers (I was in a game with him and tank130 where this guy had 3 howitzers out with like 3 kills between them)
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2011, 11:07:11 am »

On the strat itself, 1 howie is plenty. As long as you know exactly when and where to shoot it, it can be just as devastating as 3 howies mindlessly spamming shells into the FoW.
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2011, 11:16:43 am »

I would provide my teammate with line of sight.  Cool
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2011, 11:17:07 am »

Jeeps, Jeeps everywhere.
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2011, 11:17:25 am »

cloud this is just disgacefull, you created an ENTIRE thread just to grieve a player. you guys gave him hell on vent yesterday. no need to smere it all over the forums. we know jstek is new, no need to make a post just to show a mistake me made, tell him he made a mistake and move on
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2011, 11:23:23 am »

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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2011, 11:26:12 am »

cloud this is just disgacefull, you created an ENTIRE thread just to grieve a player. you guys gave him hell on vent yesterday. no need to smere it all over the forums. we know jstek is new, no need to make a post just to show a mistake me made, tell him he made a mistake and move on

I find this incredibly amusing.
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2011, 11:28:17 am »

If you know your teammate is going to do that, it can be used to devestating effect.

I remember a game where AmPM called out nothing but 25lbrs at the start. We proceeded to roll the other team with the constant arty support.

So... yeah. Man up and quit complaining about your teammates. (Making a post like this is dick move imho).
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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2011, 04:42:19 pm »

I find this incredibly amusing.

Your Learning Wink  telling som1 he made a mistake involves ADVICE which 99% of people find usefull. But.. i dunno. som1 i know doesnt like advice.
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