The fall of the United States of America

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[Masacree]

Don't get me started on the state of American politics.

Someone guess my political leanings.

[Demon767]

i think he is trying to say he doesn't like the US, and is sad his island was never considered a head of a empire in its lifetime, only considered the tiny toe of a empire.

Let me unpack exactly what you said and that you are dum

1. Your statement about me not liking the US, well i can see from your point of view, if you werent trolling like a lil bitch, that i could possibly believe in that. However, you overlook the fact that i am Australian, and that the United States of America has given so much to Australia, protection, opening up trade, securing the pacific for our exploitation. However it seems you are unintelligent, or you do possess the correct level of education to know that part of history.

2. My sad island? are you that egotistical that you believe anyone in this world cares about being a great empire? nor do you believe it is ever gonna last? Empires do not last, ever, and they become a sad footnote in history. The very fact that anyone believes there country is better then any other because of the sheer scale of the influence is subject to there own vices. It has Always been like that in History. I also find it very amusing that you even brought up that fact, a child has the mindframe to question that, an adult does not. Maybe i should check up on your age firstly and just go trololol and not take any of this seriously if you are under the age of 14.

Lastly, i believe you've been in this community long enough to know that i can drag this out for so fucking long, dont mess with me and arguments.

[brn4meplz]

Ask any Afghan refugee how they feel about the Taliban. In fact, I dare you to tell them the Taliban did something "good" for Afghanistan. If you don't get beaten up senseless for daring imply the murderers of their family members are "good" for the country, they'll give you a nice and long lecture about how the Taliban forces people into drug trade, and shoots anybody who disagrees.

The Taliban is a ridiculously bad thing for Afghanistan.

Religion has, in the past 200 years, only served to STOP countries from developing, causing undue bloodshed and division of the society. I find it disgusting that anyone implies it's the "lack of religion" that's killing America. The main reason why I find America a disgusting and socially backwards place is actually the importance the country's populace places on religion.

I'd say countries like the UK are fairly well off, being countries where religion is shunned. Much better off as far as stability is concerned compared to countries where religion is extremely well-entrenched (Middle East, North Africa).

The Taliban arose amongst the collapse and withdrawal of the Soviet union and the following Warlords and internal struggle it caused. I'm not claiming that the Taliban is ALL good. I'm saying they had positive benefits. The suppression of open violence across the entire country and the implementation of a federal law are definitely positive benefits(even if the law is strict and archaic)

In the same sense I wouldn't classify Saddam Hussein as a moral or positive person on Human history but I can credit the man with given the region(Middle east) one of the best educational systems, upping the education levels of women in the country and orchestrating the worlds most successful literacy rate recovery. All noble endeavors and certainly beneficial to many many people.

Good things can be found in bad places. You just have to look.

[DarkSoldierX]

Let me unpack exactly what you said and that you are dum

1. Your statement about me not liking the US, well i can see from your point of view, if you werent trolling like a lil bitch, that i could possibly believe in that. However, you overlook the fact that i am Australian, and that the United States of America has given so much to Australia, protection, opening up trade, securing the pacific for our exploitation. However it seems you are unintelligent, or you do possess the correct level of education to know that part of history.

2. My sad island? are you that egotistical that you believe anyone in this world cares about being a great empire? nor do you believe it is ever gonna last? Empires do not last, ever, and they become a sad footnote in history. The very fact that anyone believes there country is better then any other because of the sheer scale of the influence is subject to there own vices. It has Always been like that in History. I also find it very amusing that you even brought up that fact, a child has the mindframe to question that, an adult does not. Maybe i should check up on your age firstly and just go trololol and not take any of this seriously if you are under the age of 14.

Lastly, i believe you've been in this community long enough to know that i can drag this out for so fucking long, dont mess with me and arguments.

Both of what you said has little to do with what I said. I never said empires last, and if you appreciate the US so much, why would you snicker at its shortcoming? Is your ally dieing funny matter?

You brought up things that I never said. Which proves your still unintelligent enough to make a proper argument because you tried to make a argument against something that just plain and simply, was never said, nor implied.

And yes quite a few people do want to own a empire because he would have large amounts of power. If you think that thats not true, why the fuck do we have dictators and people like them?

And you can drag it out all you want good for you, doesn't mean anything.

[Demon767]

Both of what you said has little to do with what I said. I never said empires last, and if you appreciate the US so much, why would you snicker at its shortcoming? Is your ally dieing funny matter?

You brought up things that I never said. Which proves your still unintelligent enough to make a proper argument because you tried to make a argument against something that just plain and simply, was never said, nor implied.

And yes quite a few people do want to own a empire because he would have large amounts of power. If you think that thats not true, why the fuck do we have dictators and people like them?

And you can drag it out all you want good for you, doesn't mean anything.

lol wut? do you not read? no point in arguing if you failed to see anything that i posted.

[DarkSoldierX]

lol wut? do you not read? no point in arguing if you failed to see anything that i posted.

It seems you did not read what I posted if you argue against something I didn't say.

Imagine if I said

"Yeah right demon, Europeans are clearly better at business, but your too stuckup to notice that"

Now what would that half to do with what you posted, nothing.

You assumed things and began to argue against nothing.

[Demon767]

because you didnt read what i said properly.

[DarkSoldierX]

because you didnt read what i said properly.

Perhaps I failed to see your point in the same way many people failed to see what your picture meant in the begging of the thread, your simply not showing it properly, so how would anyone know?

[Unkn0wn]

Cut it out both of you, nobody cares.

[Mysthalin]

The Taliban arose amongst the collapse and withdrawal of the Soviet union and the following Warlords and internal struggle it caused. I'm not claiming that the Taliban is ALL good. I'm saying they had positive benefits. The suppression of open violence across the entire country and the implementation of a federal law are definitely positive benefits(even if the law is strict and archaic)

In the same sense I wouldn't classify Saddam Hussein as a moral or positive person on Human history but I can credit the man with given the region(Middle east) one of the best educational systems, upping the education levels of women in the country and orchestrating the worlds most successful literacy rate recovery. All noble endeavors and certainly beneficial to many many people.

Good things can be found in bad places. You just have to look.

In my opinion the Taliban were the greater of two evils. They brought some degree of stability to the country - which is inherently useless because it has also drawn the country into a perpetual state of war and stunted growth. And, in that situation - stability is largely useless to the country.

A much better option would have been for Ahmad Shah Massoud to take power (the man that pretty much kicked the USSR out of Afghanistan) - who, although Islamic, created laws and regulations based on logic, rather than dogma - and acted in ways to help his own people, rather than exploit them for some retarded goal.

Too bad he got assassinated 2 days prior to 9/11 by the Taliban.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Well thats life.
it will be fun to see what the future holds and lets hope its for the better of all, not just some.

[PonySlaystation]

I wouldn't classify Saddam Hussein as a moral or positive person on Human history but I can credit the man with given the region(Middle east) one of the best educational systems, upping the education levels of women in the country and orchestrating the worlds most successful literacy rate recovery. All noble endeavors and certainly beneficial to many many people.

One good deed does not make up for a lifetime of bad ones.

[tank130]

One good deed does not make up for a lifetime of bad ones.

Yeah. Even Hitler did some good things for his country.

[Masacree]

Someone guess my political leanings.

pls

[TheIcelandicManiac]

I am going to go with Extreme Right Conservative

[SX23]

Although this is all very interesting, I do not see the point of this post. Unless some of you are wishing to propose something that actually could help the situation, instead of quite simply wishing "for the best", we might just get somewhere.

[brn4meplz]

In my opinion the Taliban were the greater of two evils. They brought some degree of stability to the country - which is inherently useless because it has also drawn the country into a perpetual state of war and stunted growth. And, in that situation - stability is largely useless to the country.

A much better option would have been for Ahmad Shah Massoud to take power (the man that pretty much kicked the USSR out of Afghanistan) - who, although Islamic, created laws and regulations based on logic, rather than dogma - and acted in ways to help his own people, rather than exploit them for some retarded goal.

Too bad he got assassinated 2 days prior to 9/11 by the Taliban.

As a side note, that Assassination was pretty well planned. I'll at least tip my hat to a job well done even if it did destroy any possible future of a charismatic and confident Afghan leadership.

News crew with bomb camera. They had Interviewed the upper leadership previously and actually waited(somewhat patiently) for him specifically. Patience isn't an easy thing in those kinds of situations.

[Unkn0wn]

Don't get me started on the state of American politics.

Someone guess my political leanings.

Marxist, or at least left wing (radical compared to the focal point of US politics) judging by some of your old posts.

[Mysthalin]

Someone guess my political leanings.

Something inbetween leftwing and centre. Perhaps you may have a bit of a fancy for Ayn Rand's Objectivism with your apparent wish for a society that's well-educated enough to form it's own opinions with actual responsibility.

[Vermillion_Hawk]

I sometimes feel like democracy isn't working anymore in countries like America. With the mass media engine turning the minds of children and adults across the country to utter mush, I sincerely believe the majority of people do not know what is best for them. Here in Canada, being in close proximity to the US, we have similar problems, but nothing as bad as there. I personally

think there needs to be a more centralized form of democracy put into action, but evidently it's too late for that. The extreme capitalism in America has completely corrupted the upper echelons of power, so many government officials are paid by private interests, so the entire country is pretty much unsalvageable at this point.