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CommieKiller
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The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:13:14 pm »
I've come across many weird companies lately and one that absolutely disgusted me was Gren and KCH based Terror company that consisted of Terror of Stalingrad Gren and Oak Leaves Spam, backed up with 5~6 paks.
Allied Infantry? Charge KCH with doc buffs and med kit. Instagibbed.
Light vehicles? pff, a couple of pfaust will easily eat them alive.
Tanks? Guess what, I have crap load of paks!
I'm posting this because I was stomped,
and I stomped others with this strat as well.
There are no hard counter to this other than arty spam, which by the time arties show up axis would've taken 3/4 of the map.
I think either the Oak Leaves or couple of doc buffs has got to go.
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CrazyWR
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:18:53 pm »
use bar riflemen and laugh
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poyrazthewicked
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Posts: 163
Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:24:00 pm »
Quote from: CommieKiller on July 08, 2011, 01:13:14 pm
I've come across many weird companies lately and one that absolutely disgusted me was Gren and KCH based Terror company that consisted of Terror of Stalingrad Gren and Oak Leaves KCH Spam, backed up with 5~6 paks.
Allied Infantry? Charge KCH with doc buffs and med kit. Instagibbed.
Light vehicles? pff, a couple of pfaust will easily eat them alive.
Tanks? Guess what, I have crap load of paks!
I'm posting this because I was stomped,
and I stomped others with this strat as well.
There are no hard counter to this other than arty spam, which by the time arties show up axis would've taken 3/4 of the map.
I think either the Oak Leaves or couple of doc buffs has got to go.
are u joking???
u just need bars which is most op thing around right now...
allies don't even use tanks anymore...
KCHs are just useless one bar supression and u can kill 380mp+140mun+25mun(med kit)+50mun(faust)
380mp+215MUn < 200mp+80mun OMG!!!
just spam rifles as almost all other ally do...
-wickY26
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TheIcelandicManiac
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:27:50 pm »
Now their you are just bullshitting, You need nades to make the bars usefull so its really 35+80=115 mun that a bar squad has.
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poyrazthewicked
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:30:00 pm »
Quote from: TheIcelandicManiac on July 08, 2011, 01:27:50 pm
Now their you are just bullshitting, You need nades to make the bars usefull so its really 35+80=115 mun that a bar squad has.
still
380mp+215MUn < 200mp+110mun OMG!!!
-wickY26
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CommieKiller
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:37:55 pm »
bar? bar is oh so easy to counter
pop gren snipe. or say hello to your little assault nades
suppression doesn't even work on oak leaves with Fearless
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Mister Schmidt
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:41:53 pm »
Yes, using 6 Marksmen shots on a whole squad, very cost effective
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poyrazthewicked
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:43:35 pm »
Quote from: CommieKiller on July 08, 2011, 01:37:55 pm
bar? bar is oh so easy to counter
pop gren snipe. or say hello to your little assault nades
suppression doesn't even work on oak leaves with Fearless
u are joking again ha??
gren snipe only kill one man then supressed by bar...
assault nades are easy to dodge just run away with one squad who is about to be assault then killed poor grens while they are chasing them...
-wickY26
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CommieKiller
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:47:25 pm »
suppression doesnt really work on grens or kch with Fearless
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RikiRude
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:49:26 pm »
fearless + pp oakleaves laugh at BAR suppression, if you get close enough or are in cover you will kill the rifles easy.
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poyrazthewicked
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 01:51:28 pm »
Quote from: CommieKiller on July 08, 2011, 01:47:25 pm
suppression doesnt really work on grens or kch with Fearless
standing while supresion doesnt mean they cannot be suppresed..
they just get less received damage than normal supression and their speed become so slow so u can still bomb them with applenade...
-wickY26
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 02:04:02 pm »
Commie killer, post the replay where oak leaves raped multiple barsquads.
And make sure to take a pic of their ending kills.
I had two with shitloads of kills, and one that I was just like "ok i feel bad, retreat! its failkt time"
Bars don't do shit vs my oak leaves, sorry.
Hell, videotape the part where you surpressed my oak leaves and I kept walking at your bar squad and the bar squad supporting it, raping both of them.
And one last thing. Oak leaves are VERY VERY good at retaining men. Retaining men means healed men. Healed men means full HP squad with already 15+ kills and ready to get some more. Something that is impossible to do with a riflesquad.
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poyrazthewicked
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 02:27:42 pm »
Quote from: DarkSoldierX on July 08, 2011, 02:04:02 pm
Commie killer, post the replay where oak leaves raped multiple barsquads.
And make sure to take a pic of their ending kills.
I had two with shitloads of kills, and one that I was just like "ok i feel bad, retreat! its failkt time"
Bars don't do shit vs my oak leaves, sorry.
Hell, videotape the part where you surpressed my oak leaves and I kept walking at your bar squad and the bar squad supporting it, raping both of them.
And one last thing. Oak leaves are VERY VERY good at retaining men. Retaining men means healed men. Healed men means full HP squad with already 15+ kills and ready to get some more. Something that is impossible to do with a riflesquad.
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=19938.0
just watch it..
rifle spam always wins...
-wickY26
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Mister Schmidt
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Posts: 5006
Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 02:28:12 pm »
Don't watch it, it will sync error.
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poyrazthewicked
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Posts: 163
Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 02:30:43 pm »
Quote from: Mister Schmidt on July 08, 2011, 02:28:12 pm
Don't watch it, it will sync error.
no it won't I tested again..
-wickY26
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Mister Schmidt
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 02:39:15 pm »
lol my bad I read the date wrong :L
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8thRifleRegiment
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 02:41:47 pm »
jesus crhist people, we can fucking theory craft all godamn day.
Hard counter to assaulting infantry is BARs Or HMGs Or even better mines. Rofl, you know to stop all forms of assault nades and kch, you stack a mortar a ghound and a BAR and that entire company you cannont beat commie, goes out the window.
All assaulting inf is pushed away by the ghound and it can also push the kch who use ppills to avoid letting them to get close to your BAR rifles. Then any paks thats creep up, mortar. Or even two mortars for the Lolz.
Problem solved.
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 03:20:27 pm »
Quote from: 8thRifleRegiment on July 08, 2011, 02:41:47 pm
jesus crhist people, we can fucking theory craft all godamn day.
Hard counter to assaulting infantry is BARs Or HMGs Or even better mines. Rofl, you know to stop all forms of assault nades and kch, you stack a mortar a ghound and a BAR and that entire company you cannont beat commie, goes out the window.
All assaulting inf is pushed away by the ghound and it can also push the kch who use ppills to avoid letting them to get close to your BAR rifles. Then any paks thats creep up, mortar. Or even two mortars for the Lolz.
Problem solved.
You do realized by your own definition, that if we are theory crafting, you are theory crafting.
Quote from: poyrazthewicked on July 08, 2011, 02:27:42 pm
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=19938.0
just watch it..
rifle spam always wins...
-wickY26
Indeed thats alot of rifles. But the KCH weren't micro'd properly. One way I may point this out is that he used medkits in a engagement he wont win and he wanted out of. And in a engagement like that all you do is you just increased the time you are taking the pain, up to the point where you loose a man or two and you have to retreat.
You only use medkits AFTER combat, or when you are 100% sure you want commit to the combat and have no doubt you will loose.
He also sat fighting many rifles at medium range, another terrible thing to do, and he lacked assault nades, which at 50 mu is a steal on oak leaves. And in a few places his oak leaves weren't properly in cover.
And one last thing, LOL that m10 sniped 2 oak leaves men, lololololololololol!
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RikiRude
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 03:22:26 pm »
i use medkit to heal while in combat to turn a battle in my favor, THEN you hop into an ambulance to top them off
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brn4meplz
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Re: The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)
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July 08, 2011, 05:32:28 pm »
Medkits have a delay before they start up the healing aspect, it's a good way to end up dead if something comes out of the darkness that you are not expecting because you move at -1 speed.
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