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Poppi

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2011, 11:04:25 pm »

Quote from: Mister Schmidt on July 22, 2011, 04:02:15 pm

Everything you use is bad isn't it Poppi?

no some stuff works great. Assault engineers, rangers w/o zooks, 3 bar inf, AB RR, triage i all love.

But im REALLY REALLY sticking to US mortars suck donkey balls. Unless when u want smoke. But to damage or kill ya horrible.
Multiple times i lob mortars at suppressed or pinned blobs. After about 3 rounds....hurray i got 1 kill.

And vs a WM forget about it. I can have a jeep scout a WM mortar team. US mortars can launch about 2-3 rounds at them, maybe hit next to them or on them. WM mortar turns around, sets up, fires about 2 rounds (im on my 6th by now), wipes out US team.

I brought mortars to about over 200 games. They never really performed well. Plus high pool value.


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TheVolskinator Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2011, 09:07:23 am »

Poppi gets it right, perfect in fact.

"WE GAWTTUH SET A BARRAGE ON THIS POSITION!"
-Ami mortar sets up-
-lobs a full barage at a german mortar-
..
..
-second barrage at german mortar-

-meanwhile in germany-

"OOH, ACHTUN!"

-mortar sets up, fires one round, lands directly on the ami team-

"Enemy down, but vee took a pounding!"


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Mister Schmidt Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2011, 10:28:42 am »

Quote from: TheVolskinator on July 23, 2011, 09:07:23 am

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2011, 10:31:15 am »

lol.

At least he didn't say "In vcoh"


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Mysthalin Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2011, 10:37:56 am »

lol "took a pounding".


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Re: Under used units

« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2011, 10:51:17 am »

Quote from: Poppi on July 22, 2011, 03:59:35 pm

i think US mortars are the utmost piece of shit ever. Even with lock n load upgrade. I think bc their damage is too low or splash is to low to be of any use.

US Mortar has higher damage and higher RoF than Wehrmacht one. It has lower pack up time too and very little things that can instantly blow it to bits. (lack of indirect fire by Wehrmacht and PE)


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Re: Under used units

« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2011, 10:52:38 am »

Quote from: spinn72 on July 22, 2011, 08:10:05 pm

REVELATION

Yea seriously, the LATHT is amazing

Too bad ketten is 2 pop now, 3 pop LATHT + 1 pop ketten (4 pop in total) was a pretty BOSS anti sniper combo.


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TheVolskinator Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2011, 11:27:55 am »

Sitting at 3 pop, im surpsied i havent seen LATHT spam. Could fit a crapload of them into a company (not sure how much they cost).

I really dont use them in my PE companies, since treadbreaker now = damaged engine speed for 2 minutes. TBH, only useful when you can immobilize shit, but thats just me. Still an underused and underrated unit, ATHT is a pretty boss unit.


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Re: Under used units

« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2011, 11:29:32 am »

Quote from: TheVolskinator on July 23, 2011, 11:27:55 am

Sitting at 3 pop, im surpsied i havent seen LATHT spam. Could fit a crapload of them into a company (not sure how much they cost).

This tells alot about latht tbh.


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Mysthalin Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2011, 11:30:46 am »

Quote from: TheVolskinator on July 23, 2011, 11:27:55 am

Me and panda have done it.

I didn't like them because microing 8 at a time is retardedly hard, but apparently panda got to a point where even he dropped that company because nobody would play him.


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Katusha Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2011, 11:32:13 am »

Quote from: TheVolskinator on July 23, 2011, 11:27:55 am

Mysthalin did 8 LATHT start vs me and AmPM. Didnt really work, just killed 1 atg, 1 inf squad, and a cromwell and his teammate got wiped out afterwards. Though he could have used them better, he just blobbed them and got hit by the Infantry Arty Off-map.

I think they cost 60 Fuel, so pretty costly for how fragile it is, plus 75 MU for treadbreaker?


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Mister Schmidt Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2011, 11:32:42 am »

Quote from: TheVolskinator on July 23, 2011, 11:27:55 am

Come play my Luft then


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Mysthalin Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2011, 11:33:01 am »

Quote from: Katusha on July 23, 2011, 11:32:13 am

I killed a lot more than that tbh.


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Katusha Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2011, 11:34:00 am »

Quote from: Mysthalin on July 23, 2011, 11:33:01 am

I killed a lot more than that tbh.

I just mentioned what I saw and remembered, wouldn't be surprised if I missed some more


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Smokaz Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2011, 11:34:08 am »

Omg a unit has a supporting role and isn't good in a turkish mass!

Quickly, change it! Before someone gets disspointed


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Unkn0wn Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2011, 11:40:34 am »

This is proof of my earlier point that some units simply scale better than others, which is something we can't account for in individual pricing. (And thus why we need an availability mechanism)


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Re: Under used units

« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2011, 11:47:29 am »

Quote from: nugnugx on July 23, 2011, 11:29:32 am

This tells alot about latht tbh.

+1

there are some units on my "never using" list because they don't fit my playstyle or i just don't like them

but not the latht i don't use it because its overpriced shit
i run several very balanced companies making use of massive combined arms (i even use both hotchkiss variants in support) but i never would waste 60 fuel and almost 100mun for a unit that don't even threadbreaks and is not even worth to be named "enginedamager" because its just a temporary effect while stickies/mines give permanent engine damage for much less ressources

i maybe would consider to use it when its a permanent engine damage (with some mun decrease) to slow pershings and churchill crocs but not as this joke unit


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Unkn0wn Offline

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Re: Under used units

« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2011, 11:50:44 am »

LATHT is far from overpriced, I easily get 10+ infantry kills on it, it's particularly amazing against elite infantry. Sure, you'll probably lose it in the process of fighting elite infantry if they have AT but by that time you'll have done a lot more damage.


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Re: Under used units

« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2011, 11:55:38 am »

Quote from: Mysthalin on July 23, 2011, 11:33:01 am

I killed a lot more than that tbh.

yeah that was me, i had no idea that was his start, and i was like, uhhhhhhh what the hell do i do. i think if i had been prepared for it i could of reacted better.