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nugnugx
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US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 10:26:03 am »
Should US get a new inf squad like the wehr gren team ?
US got the basic rifleman but they don't have a team that could fight non upgraded. Without bars they are just meat or spammage.
IMO US could use a 4 man squad with HP like grens , for guns maybe 4 M1 Garands. They would cost more than rifleman but cheaper than grens as they would have lower dps.
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Vermillion_Hawk
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 10:32:26 am »
Just repurpose the Marines to this sort of squad. I think it might work well.
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shotgunners and marines FTW!
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LeoPhone
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 11:52:06 am »
US do get new inf squads:
rangers, AB, assault engis.
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nugnugx
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July 25, 2011, 11:54:55 am »
Quote from: LeoPhone on July 25, 2011, 11:52:06 am
US do get new inf squads:
rangers, AB,
leos bad trolling
They are not even new cause they were since forever.
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DarkSoldierX
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July 25, 2011, 12:01:47 pm »
I believe nug is talking about EiRmod earlier saying he was thinking (I believe) about a non-doctrinal new US infantry squad. Like grens, but for the US.
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EliteGren
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 12:27:55 pm »
That's what marines are supposed to be. They used to be 4 men, I think they fill this role quite nicely
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 12:38:16 pm »
Quote from: EliteGren on July 25, 2011, 12:27:55 pm
That's what marines are supposed to be. They used to be 4 men, I think they fill this role quite nicely
Marines are a reward unit aren't they, i was thinking of US having 2 inf squads on every faction like volks and grens.
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 01:41:26 pm »
Quote from: LeoPhone on July 25, 2011, 11:52:06 am
US do get new inf squads:
rangers, AB, assault engis.
leo, how do i put this lightly? you are a fucking idiot
no no, i dont mean that, but is that seriously your response let's take a look at this.
volks/rifles are about the same cost, and same pool cost.
grens, 240mp 4 pool cost
US has nothing comparable to that. rangers and ab?
rangers 310mp and AB 280mp and 9 fucking pool!!!
You know what WM has at 9 pool cost? KCH and Oaks Leaves!!! WTF? And KCH aren't even doctrinal. And FFS! What are Oaks Leaves only 9 pool? they should be 10.
Something is incredibly wrong with that.
Also Tommies are 3 pool cost and i feel like they should be 4... but sappers and recon are at 6... so it's strange.
that all needs to have a serious look at. no comment on PE since i dont play them.
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AmPM
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 01:44:34 pm »
Mirror factions for the win?
Allies have plenty of infantry squad choices already.
While we are at it let me get a 90mm AA/AT gun for my Infantry Coy and the M5 3" gun.
Seriousness follows:
AB and Rangers as well as Stormtroopers need to come down in pool cost to around 6.
Recon Tommies and Sappers are at 6 to prevent spammage.
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LeoPhone
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 02:17:24 pm »
Quote from: AmPM on July 25, 2011, 01:44:34 pm
Seriousness follows:
AB and Rangers as well as Stormtroopers need to come down in pool cost to around 6.
Recon Tommies and Sappers are at 6 to prevent spammage.
They will, once we put the weapon cache pool in. that way you can get almost as much elite inf as basic inf, as long as you don't buy upgrades for them.
This is why I said AB and rangers are just as good infantry squads as grenadiers.
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TheVolskinator
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 02:36:25 pm »
"Groundpounder Riflemen";
4 men with Soldier armor, 75 hp ea; have Leader MP44s with Garand aestetics. Have a default sprint ability, can purchase a 5th man with a BAR.
Idk, just a 2 second idea
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RikiRude
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 05:08:47 pm »
Quote from: LeoPhone on July 25, 2011, 02:17:24 pm
They will, once we put the weapon cache pool in. that way you can get almost as much elite inf as basic inf, as long as you don't buy upgrades for them.
This is why I said AB and rangers are just as good infantry squads as grenadiers.
ok that makes sense then. when will we see this though?
also to volks, instead of a garand, give them johnson lmgs =)
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Demon767
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 05:38:36 pm »
but US rifleman own volks (kar or mp40) with Bars, and well... can defeat gren lmgs. So why would you want any other infantry in your company then a unit that can defeat both axis infantry and suppress? you dont that's the answer.
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 05:42:25 pm »
Quote from: Demon767 on July 25, 2011, 05:38:36 pm
but US rifleman own volks (kar or mp40) with Bars, and well... can defeat gren lmgs. So why would you want any other infantry in your company then a unit that can defeat both axis infantry and suppress? you dont that's the answer.
/thread.
but it doesnt leave much room for diversity.
US player.... let me guess....inf w/ bars.
Next special infantry depends on the doctrine (ranger, AE, AB). So just one other special inf unit. And the pool for AB and Rangers are high, and rangers suck up too much MU w/ shitty tommys. So as others pointed out. Why have anything else but bar inf? Forced spam FTW?
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 05:43:48 pm »
Quote from: RikiRude on July 25, 2011, 05:08:47 pm
ok that makes sense then. when will we see this though?
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Demon767
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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Reply #16 on:
July 25, 2011, 05:51:27 pm »
well okay. remove bars from the game.
Add in greaseguns as an upgrade for US infantry.
Add in 4 man marine squad.
Balanced.
The repercussions on the Axis side for having a new us infantry squad that is better then the normal inf bar squad will totally change axis builds. and you wont see the common volks squad anymore.
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jackmccrack
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Re: US new inf squad ?
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July 25, 2011, 10:24:23 pm »
make marines purchasable case closed see you next patch
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