PonySlaystation
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« Reply #60 on: August 01, 2011, 05:35:49 pm » |
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1. Disable their AT
2. Take a gamble and try to destroy sniper with a possible loss of a Kettengrad and Pg squad/Vamp HT with PG squad/Scout Car
Both of those will require more resources than the cost of a sniper. Allowing them to use a sniper for a longer period of time unharassed will mean the loss of the match. What you're suggesting is basically that players should bring marders to a bazooka fight. |
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #61 on: August 01, 2011, 05:36:30 pm » |
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Thats why its in the rewards unit section - to test ;p
you wont see much testing judging how easily they will die,lol |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #62 on: August 01, 2011, 05:37:13 pm » |
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No doubt the kettenkrad and the vampire meshes very well with the FSJ sniper. But that effectively brings him up to a immobile attempt at counter-sniping, at 11 pop.
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WildZontar
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« Reply #63 on: August 01, 2011, 05:40:30 pm » |
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Both of those will require more resources than the cost of a sniper. Allowing them to use a sniper for a longer period of time unharassed will mean the loss of the match.
But what about having to wait in cover with the PE sniper waiting for the American sniper to fire in your area? Wouldn't that take just as long? |
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AmPM
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« Reply #64 on: August 01, 2011, 05:41:41 pm » |
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Both of those will require more resources than the cost of a sniper. Allowing them to use a sniper for a longer period of time unharassed will mean the loss of the match.
Use the two units you should have anyway, Vampire + Mortar HT. Use the Vampire for detection in fog of war, hit sniper with mortar. Fun and easy to burn it alive. If it runs away to heal shoot its heal station. |
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| PonySlaystation
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« Reply #65 on: August 01, 2011, 05:42:57 pm » |
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But what about having to wait in cover with the PE sniper waiting for the American sniper to fire in your area? Wouldn't that take just as long?
Go back and read what EIRmod said. They are testing the unit thus gave it weak performance to see how it would alter balance and will slowly modify it to the better. |
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| PonySlaystation
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« Reply #66 on: August 01, 2011, 05:49:52 pm » |
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Use the two units you should have anyway, Vampire + Mortar HT.
Use the Vampire for detection in fog of war, hit sniper with mortar. Fun and easy to burn it alive. If it runs away to heal shoot its heal station.
While this may be a viable strategy against newer players it's not something you can easily pull of against better players. |
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WildZontar
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« Reply #67 on: August 01, 2011, 05:53:00 pm » |
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Go back and read what EIRmod said. They are testing the unit thus gave it weak performance to see how it would alter balance and will slowly modify it to the better.
What other tweak could they give it besides taking away its cover cloaking and replacing it with full enabled cloak? |
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Mister Schmidt
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« Reply #68 on: August 01, 2011, 05:54:12 pm » |
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We had many many ideas for what the FJ Sniper could do.
If it turns out to be sucky, have no fear, for it can be made into a killing machine.
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| DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #69 on: August 01, 2011, 05:54:18 pm » |
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While this may be a viable strategy against newer players it's not something you can easily pull of against better players.
I disagree lol. |
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| PonySlaystation
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« Reply #70 on: August 01, 2011, 05:56:20 pm » |
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I disagree lol.
A better player will avoid the sniper like it's the plague and they will make it their highest priority to kill. The mortar is not fast enough to kill a sniper on the move. |
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TheWindCriesMary
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« Reply #71 on: August 01, 2011, 06:20:56 pm » |
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Every faction should get a KT otherwise it's not fair.
In fact, let's just combine all the factions into one and then the game will be more fair because no army will have units that the other doesn't.
These are pro ways to improve the game -- faction/doctrine strengths and weakness ruin gameplay!
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EIRRMod
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« Reply #72 on: August 01, 2011, 06:46:54 pm » |
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Every faction should get a KT otherwise it's not fair.
In fact, let's just combine all the factions into one and then the game will be more fair because no army will have units that the other doesn't.
These are pro ways to improve the game -- faction/doctrine strengths and weakness ruin gameplay!
Wait what? The FJ Sniper isnt even part of a doctrine? Crazy Wind.... |
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Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
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Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
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| spinn72
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« Reply #73 on: August 01, 2011, 06:55:07 pm » |
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PE sniper is in.
Faith in humanity -1
Has anyone actually played Luft? Seriously? I can have cloaking ambush falls and a sniper now.. lul
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EIRRMod
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« Reply #74 on: August 01, 2011, 07:06:49 pm » |
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PE sniper is in.
Faith in humanity -1
Has anyone actually played Luft? Seriously? I can have cloaking ambush falls and a sniper now.. lul
Again, how can you have a luft sniper? Its not on the common list, and as we've stated before - reward units are for testing, NOT part of the normal doctrine/faction restrictions. You will also see units for Allies that are not part of their normal doctrine/faction restrictions such as the cuckoo panther and other HTs that would normally be the realm of Axis. |
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nugnugx
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« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2011, 12:33:49 am » |
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I can have cloaking ambush falls and a sniper now.. lul
Lol and ? blitz can have cloaking storms and sniper. Imo moving cloak for sniper is a must if he is not like brit sniper. also if he does not have critical, his RoF mayb should be normalized to kill at speed of normal sniper. example : normal sniper 1 kill---reload----1 kill pe sniper: shot shot 1 kill shot shot---1 kill |
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2011, 01:38:23 am » |
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I've never had my FSJ Marksman fail to kill on a hit. Same rifle as the WM Sniper.
Why is there so much Discussion on counter sniping with the FSJ marksman? You don't take a commando sniper against a WM Sniper because you have no element of surprise, you'll get your face shot off. PE already has a plethora of capable Sniper hunters, the FSJ marksman is not supposed to be one of those.
I think you're all asking for a WM Sniper and just don't want to admit it.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #77 on: August 02, 2011, 02:22:54 am » |
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I've never had my FSJ Marksman fail to kill on a hit. Same rifle as the WM Sniper. Oh ok , i didn't use it yet so idky how it works, i was just basing on what Smokaz said. |
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2011, 03:51:34 am » |
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I think you're all asking for a WM Sniper and just don't want to admit it. noup,2 man team as mando sniper would be fine,so you dont loose reward unit to a single shoot! If mando sniper was 1 guy,how many of vetted mandos snipers would be on the field,aaa,yea right,almost none! with allies snipers being quite popular lately,usually I see few per game lately,how do you expect this poor fella to survive 1 game,being reward unit which enemy will prioritize to take out,just to grief you?! some extra range with vet would make him more survivable. |
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| PonySlaystation
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« Reply #79 on: August 02, 2011, 06:30:19 am » |
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Why is there so much Discussion on counter sniping with the FSJ marksman? You don't take a commando sniper against a WM Sniper because you have no element of surprise, you'll get your face shot off. PE already has a plethora of capable Sniper hunters, the FSJ marksman is not supposed to be one of those.
Bullshit. The Commado sniper is a great counter sniper and as I explained already every single PE sniper counter has short range, is a vehicle and doesn't has the element of surprise so they can be countered easily. |
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