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[EIRRMod]

What about coop 'scenarios' similar to joint ops? But with your ''limited'' company

That was the idea behind them yeah.

Scenario with strict(er) Availability

[Audemed]

Survival or defense mode games vs AI would be sick. You have normal pop/unit limitations, but the AI spawns nastier and nastier shit, with no pop limitation.

[Jstek]

You really think stomping noobs is fun?
super easy games are one of the most boring thing in this mod and is one of the main reason to not play against Smurfs, you have noidea who is actuly new or good so if you get into a game of new people the games are just slow unintresting and actionless and the only reason why you would play them is for XP on units but there is no real reason why you would want to play stomps unless you suck yourself and the only way to boost your own ego is to stomp people worse than you.

OH LOOK HERE, I JUST STOMPED SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO PLAY THIS MOD OR EVEN COH SO I MUST BE GOOD.
LET ME JUST SHOWE MY DICK DOWN YOUR EARS AND FORCE YOU TO LISTEN TO MY SCREACING VOICE TROUGH YOUR HEADPHONES!!

So your saying stomps in EIR don't happen and is not a problem.  So there is no point in trying to prevent them because they don't exist.. Who are you.. Obama?  The recession doesn't exist.. look over here its shiny..  Come on, you can't honestly believe this.

AI in the game can help stem the tide of the stomping and perhaps even grow your player base.  Many of many of many of players I am sure tried the game out...  Got stomped 5-6 times after waiting forever for a game and basically decided to say fuck this shit..  not fun..  Well who fucking blames them.. 

So 1 out of a 1000 players end up playing regular.  Well, damn, if only you could undo it the ratio ends up being 1`out of 10 players..  ....  That would be huge..  And no better time than to use the new WARMAP features to help implement this because EIR would be a completely different game so folks that got facefucked by the likes of guys quoted above may have the heart to try the mod again but won't hang out if its not fun.. AKA getting face-fucked by a bunch of elite trolls that want to stomp them. 

The dream is to be grand eh?  Well you need players that enjoy the game.  Telling a new player that they have to get face-fucked for the next 12 months straight before they can actually enjoy the game is not a way to convince anyone in playing a game that is suppose to be fun...  Just my 2 cents..  I feel the WARMAP is the last chance for redemption to make it great..

[Mister Schmidt]

Where's the shiny?!

I want to give it to Morka as a gift!

[EIRRMod]

Survival or defense mode games vs AI would be sick. You have normal pop/unit limitations, but the AI spawns nastier and nastier shit, with no pop limitation.

Id make it increasing pop, depending on time - simulating reinforcements slowly arriving.

The longer you survived, the higher your score / end result.

That'd be a fun / first attempt at a scenario AI for EIRR I believe.

[EIRRMod]

So your saying stomps in EIR don't happen and is not a problem.  So there is no point in trying to prevent them because they don't exist.. Who are you.. Obama?  The recession doesn't exist.. look over here its shiny..  Come on, you can't honestly believe this.

I think you missed the sarcasm on his post tbfh...

[Audemed]

Well the way I see it is kind of like the old D-Day map: Starts off with just infantry, then more inafntry, then heavy infantry, light vehicles, heavy vehicles, and it just gets harder and harder with hordes of enemy swarming in. Granted, as you can get a pair ostwinds in an initial call in, they'd need AT guns as well, but put it on semi-fixed spawn timers so you can't just have top T4 FSJ TB with a full sniper spam teammate to slowly but invincibly wear them down...

[tank130]

And no better time than to use the new WARMAP features to help implement this because EIR would be a completely different game......

Ummmm, hate to burst your bubble, but the warmap is an addition to the mod. It will not be a completely different game when it gets here.
In fact, you will have an option whether you want to be involved in the warmap or not.

Just sayin.

[EIRRMod]

In fact, you will have an option whether you want to be involved in the warmap or not.

Just sayin.

Sort of.

You can actively NOT use these parts - but that'd kinda be on par with choosing not to use the advantages page....

[Jstek]

So give them a choice.. Let them choose Warmap goodness.. or limited companies. 
Warmap goodness will require 100% automatch though.  But you can still stomp comps or noobs (i dont advice it though) under limited mode.

Yes.. That sounds like a completely different game to me!

[AmPM]

There should be no reward for playing vs the AI at all, it's not a challenge.

Players who have a clue take about 10 games to get decent. If you need help with something ask, most people are willing to help someone pay better if they ask and show a willingness to try.

I just started HoN, and got stomped my first 20 games because I was learning, I'm still not good but I'm a hell of a lot better.

[Audemed]

There should be no reward for playing vs the AI at all, it's not a challenge.

And nothing can be done to make it a challenge, amirite?

[AmPM]

Nope, AI doesn't think. All it can do is cheat. Worst case scenario you farm it for xp and exit. Free vet 3.for all!

[EIRRMod]

There should be no reward for playing vs the AI at all, it's not a challenge.

While I agree that its not a challenge (for a moderately or competent player).

You are still able to glean effectiveness and time soaked which can then calculate a suitable reward.

[Audemed]

Nope, AI doesn't think. All it can do is cheat. Worst case scenario you farm it for xp and exit. Free vet 3.for all!

Herpaderp, inability to think beyond your own face FTL.

[AmPM]

Lol, when was AI ever a challenge? Maybe if you give it infinite stuff to throw at you. Even then, farm and retreat. Is exploitable, the same reason that 1v1 gives nothing worth the time.
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[Spartan_Marine88]

yay now i can get everything to vet 3 in one game with no risk!

[Smokaz]

but wat if aee is smaert

[PonySlaystation]

Do you really want compstompers filling up 90% of the games? You can rarely find a game on blitzkrieg mod or eastern front mod because of this. I don't think we should bring that to EIR.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

So your saying stomps in EIR don't happen and is not a problem.  So there is no point in trying to prevent them because they don't exist.. Who are you.. Obama?  The recession doesn't exist.. look over here its shiny..  Come on, you can't honestly believe this.

AI in the game can help stem the tide of the stomping and perhaps even grow your player base.  Many of many of many of players I am sure tried the game out...  Got stomped 5-6 times after waiting forever for a game and basically decided to say fuck this shit..  not fun..  Well who fucking blames them.. 

So 1 out of a 1000 players end up playing regular.  Well, damn, if only you could undo it the ratio ends up being 1`out of 10 players..  ....  That would be huge..  And no better time than to use the new WARMAP features to help implement this because EIR would be a completely different game so folks that got facefucked by the likes of guys quoted above may have the heart to try the mod again but won't hang out if its not fun.. AKA getting face-fucked by a bunch of elite trolls that want to stomp them. 

The dream is to be grand eh?  Well you need players that enjoy the game.  Telling a new player that they have to get face-fucked for the next 12 months straight before they can actually enjoy the game is not a way to convince anyone in playing a game that is suppose to be fun...  Just my 2 cents..  I feel the WARMAP is the last chance for redemption to make it great..

When did i say stomps did not happen?
they happen so fucking often and i hate them, you have any fucking idea how many people from Coh i have gotten to come and play it and helpd them and yet they leave few seckonds later?
27, and you might say " Ohhh you just suck at this mod and should get someone else the help them" well Ground and Brn are not online every fucking day of the week so you just have to stick with me as your Shitty guide to this downtrotten mess of a mod.

Allso i did not say anything against AIs or anything else but i was just saying that stomps are not as fun as you say they are tbh, if you stomp good players like Smurf, Smokaz and deadbolt in the same game you should be proud but if they are like Noob1, Noob2, Noob3 Youd be better off just not playing that game.

Stomps are not fun nomatter how you sugarcoat  it, we should go with my old idea of making a team of players that have access to the smurf finder that would join anygame if they would find a noob in a bad scenerio, ofcourse this would not be foolproof but would help people to have fun in games even tough they would lose games but atleast they would get some good advise from people and have fun.


more to add yay: if everyone new would have games like i had when i started to a player so good and commanding and advice giving that i had would make the community alot bigger and enjoy their games alot more, getting that sexy voiced Gaming mastermind back and make him help noobs like he helped me would make the community a Wonderfull place again instead of scaring away the fun and good people that are just lookign for a good time.