nugnugx
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2011, 10:13:16 am » |
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Any chance of this being moved to balance? This is more of a balance discussion than an actual suggestion tbh.
ssssshhh we have an agreement with Smokaz for 'balance' threads being smuggled into 'suggestion' forum , roflz.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2011, 10:42:53 am » |
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they're best used with other units. or in pairs. bring a p4 with an upgun and it'll mess up anything that tries to flank it. also its phase armor will allow you to rush an atg if it shoots at the p4
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"I want proof!" "I have proof!" "Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2011, 10:50:44 am » |
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m18+atg,bye bye puma,bye bye p4...and you have 3extra pop for something.
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AmPM
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2011, 11:33:54 am » |
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they're best used with other units. or in pairs. bring a p4 with an upgun and it'll mess up anything that tries to flank it. also its phase armor will allow you to rush an atg if it shoots at the p4
Puma's are just BAD, better off using a STuH/STuH just to absorb hits for your P4....
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2011, 11:37:57 am » |
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I've used them a few times, and they're not bad in the later part of the game, when not everyone has 2 ATG out and people are playing more conservatively. They have the phase armor, decent moving acc, and good speed allowing them to flank and chase stuff you can't with heavier vehicles.
That said, all pumas could use a pop reduction IMO.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2011, 11:50:42 am » |
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i think a part of the puma's issue is that its so big and the gun sounds so awesome but its hard to tell if its hitting
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Katusha
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2011, 11:53:43 am » |
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i think a part of the puma's issue is that its so big and the gun sounds so awesome but its hard to tell if its hitting
i can answer that.. its not hitting
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Tymathee
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2011, 11:59:36 am » |
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it does but it does like what, 20-30 dmg so it takes a few hits to kill but it has a high rof. and the accuracy isn't great. Teh 50mm on the other hand is usually pretty accurate.
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2011, 12:10:25 pm » |
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it does but it does like what, 20-30 dmg so it takes a few hits to kill but it has a high rof. and the accuracy isn't great. Teh 50mm on the other hand is usually pretty accurate.
The Puma 50mm gun is extremely inaccurate.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2011, 12:17:40 pm » |
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37.5% Accuracy at long range, 50% accuracy at all other ranges.
Bait your enemy onto some negative cover and then it's 56.25% accuracy at long range and 75% accuracy at all other ranges.
Basically, don't try to snipe with 50mm Puma's unless your feeling lucky, close to medium range at least.
Btw, those numbers ARE taking account target tables against infantry, normal accuracy is 75% long range, and 100% all other ranges.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2011, 02:42:58 pm » |
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i meant agaisnt vehicles. against infantry its kinda meh.
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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2011, 03:10:05 pm » |
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i meant agaisnt vehicles. against infantry its kinda meh.
It can't even kill M8 Greyhounds. That says a lot about the Pumas effectiveness against vehicles.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2011, 03:13:40 pm » |
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upgunned Pumas should either go down in price or get the same stats as upgunned hotch tbh, or give it the p4 gun with less acc.
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gj icelandic i am proud of u Sometimes its like PQ doesnt carrot all.
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Katusha
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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2011, 03:45:32 pm » |
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It can't even kill M8 Greyhounds. That says a lot about the Pumas effectiveness against vehicles.
The ONE thing upgun pumas gun can do is maul M8's and other light vehicles..
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Tymathee
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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2011, 03:57:25 pm » |
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what kat said, 50mm puma is meant to be a light vehicle killer and a tank harasser.
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2011, 04:01:42 pm » |
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Tank harasser.. against noobs yep
And vs an m8, it will go down to half health, and the fight will take a while, if both players use buildings for cover etc..
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Tymathee
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2011, 04:25:01 pm » |
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half health is still good, what u want the puma to win hands down? most tank battles leaves the winner pretty messed up -_-
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Smokaz
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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2011, 07:59:17 pm » |
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I am a lot better than anyone. Keep cryin cause you're not listend to , Nug.
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SlippedHerTheBigOne: big penis puma SlippedHerTheBigOne: and i have no repairkits SlippedHerTheBigOne: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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3rdCondor
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2011, 08:24:56 pm » |
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I am the best player ever!
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No tits, but i will bake a cake then eat it in honour of Sir Condor The 3rd
fuck the pgren rifle, fucking dogshit weapon
My beautiful black pussy won
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Tymathee
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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2011, 08:31:48 pm » |
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humbleness ftw
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