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« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2011, 09:32:03 am » |
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Why do you insist on commenting on something that you have no knowledge of? You're worse than Smokaz. Writing a ten page review on a film you haven't seen...
You could do that if you have the script, which we basically do AFAIK |
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« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2011, 09:34:16 am » |
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fuck it let me sum it up
oversupply is gone, spam is gone.
dont break the fix
spam is almost gone, its around, but spamming hurts your company more than it used to |
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« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2011, 09:36:27 am » |
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You could do that if you have the script, which we basically do AFAIK
Apparently not, Smokaz had the entirely wrong idea. Many of the things he proposed doesn't even seem to be within context of this change. And just because he had a thoughtful post, people were agreeing with him, showing their ignorance as well. |
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« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2011, 09:37:49 am » |
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So players can actually use those units without having to pay for it dearly and the units will still be limited to an amount, so you're not gonna see 20 of them just because they go down a little to a more reasonable price.
We're changing prices for 50mm's? Cool. |
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« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2011, 09:38:31 am » |
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spam is almost gone, its around, but spamming hurts your company more than it used to
spam will always be around, and in my opinion it should be somewhat viable, but not OP |
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« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2011, 09:46:06 am » |
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Ill agree with spartan, a certain degree of spam can be kind of interesting to gameplay.
Alltho, it was getting ridiculous with the lvl 5 oversupply 100 companies.
Now, you can spam, but not to the ridiuclopus degree you could before.
Now if you spam snipers, those are your only support units, and dipping into your only avaliable reserve you cannot have as much infantry or anything else as you could have if you didnt have 5 snipers.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2011, 10:04:43 am » |
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Why do you insist on commenting on something that you have no knowledge of? You're worse than Smokaz. Writing a ten page review on a film you haven't seen...
The result of this change is that price will be more fair for some units that are currently overpriced. The 50mm AT halftrack for example. So players can actually use those units without having to pay for it dearly and those units will still be limited to an amount, so you're not gonna see 20 of them just because they go down a little, to a more reasonable price.
You mean they will reduce prices to the extent where its a no brainer to get them?s Okay great. Because the entirety of that list has a role and a purpose even if they all arent PRICED right. You price decrease mp44s and fg42s there wont be a reason to get the low tiered upgrades. Its not always about performing worth their price in all situations. |
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« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2011, 10:42:57 am » |
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You mean they will reduce prices to the extent where its a no brainer to get them?s Okay great. Because the entirety of that list has a role and a purpose even if they all arent PRICED right. You price decrease mp44s and fg42s there wont be a reason to get the low tiered upgrades. Its not always about performing worth their price in all situations.
I already said that there won't be huge price changes and so did Groundfire in the announcement. |
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« Reply #68 on: August 18, 2011, 02:52:25 pm » |
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Oh god... lesson learnt, don't announce something before it's implemented.
The amount of BAD speculation is astounding, the weapon's cache wasn't meant to target spam exclusively.
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« Reply #69 on: August 18, 2011, 03:20:41 pm » |
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Wait for it to be 100% implemented before we act so certain of it being so bad.
*waits*
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Hopefully this will get addressed in some form, but I am a firm believer in that adding prices for the top doctrine unlocks will massively improve the development of this mod.
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=20786Now back to Weapons Cache, not doctrine imbalances. CHEERS! |
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Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
That's like offering Beer to fuck the fat chick. It will work for a while, but it's not gonna last. Not only that, but there is zero motivation for the Fat chick to loose weight.
Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
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« Reply #70 on: August 18, 2011, 05:21:18 pm » |
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that oversupply is removed is a great thing but weapons cache is a bad idea
it achieve nothing it just makes balancing more complicated and just change the way balancing need to be done from pricing/performance of upgrades to amount of weapon cache points taken by upgrades
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Smokaz
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« Reply #71 on: August 18, 2011, 05:21:26 pm » |
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Oh god... lesson learnt, don't announce something before it's implemented.
The amount of BAD speculation is astounding, the weapon's cache wasn't meant to target spam exclusively.
yet stuff is already being changed or said to be going to be changed  |
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« Reply #72 on: August 18, 2011, 05:24:50 pm » |
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Everyone seems to be clueless about what gave birth to the weapons cache. The goal was to allow people to use full AB/FJs/Rangers/etc companies without making the base unit UP if not spammed.
In a sense.... the weapons cache promotes spam lol.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #73 on: August 18, 2011, 05:28:12 pm » |
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It's ok, Killer. Nobody here is saying you are consistent! What Im saying here is, the weapons cache is for spam reduction, NOT company bordem. Vote for change, vote for obama! |
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Killer344
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« Reply #74 on: August 18, 2011, 05:32:39 pm » |
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It was discussed about 4 months ago, I'll dig up the posts from the asscave later if you want...
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« Reply #75 on: August 18, 2011, 05:41:37 pm » |
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that oversupply is removed is a great thing but weapons cache is a bad idea
it achieve nothing it just makes balancing more complicated and just change the way balancing need to be done from pricing/performance of upgrades to amount of weapon cache points taken by upgrades
It allows to balance ACROSS pool AND resources. Thats the idea. Thus, certain upgrades can finally be slightly lowered. Or, extra upgrades added such as: Bar rifle (normal) 70MU 1 Cache Bar rifle (surplus) 50MU 3 Cache Things like that. Im not sure why people are fighting over a mechanic thats replacing Oversupply *shrug* Its been introduced to ALLOW more elite units etc etc - just at a small penalty to other aspects of your build. If you want to run a high number of elite inf (upgrade + nonupgraded) - you now CAN |
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« Reply #76 on: August 18, 2011, 05:48:54 pm » |
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Its been introduced to ALLOW more elite units etc etc - just at a small penalty to other aspects of your build.
If you want to run a high number of elite inf (upgrade + nonupgraded) - you now CAN
i hate "more elite inf" if i see that the current commando company has 10-12 squads commandos (excluding) with piats stens or just demos i don't see the need for "more" elite inf elite inf should be like its named "elite"=rare i would like to see only 4-6 squads of commandos airbornes or fallschirmjäger in a company not 12++ |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #77 on: August 18, 2011, 05:51:48 pm » |
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Im just curious as to why all elite infantry have to be available to replace basic infantry.. when the only slightly visible supporting trend from the players was that people wanted a way to run AB companies with all-airdroppable infantry units. Which was easy to do within the confines of a not-released doctrine!
Oh and: ignore bigdick.
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« Reply #78 on: August 18, 2011, 05:55:44 pm » |
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Oh and: ignore bigdick.
oh and acting like an idiot as usual smokaz eh? |
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« Reply #79 on: August 18, 2011, 05:56:08 pm » |
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Im just curious as to why all elite infantry have to be available to replace basic infantry.. when the only slightly visible supporting trend from the players was that people wanted a way to run AB companies with all-airdroppable infantry units.
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