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CrazyWR
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3616
Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #60 on:
August 28, 2011, 05:50:59 pm »
Quote from: EIRRMod on August 28, 2011, 04:17:51 pm
Leophone has no say on Balance changes.
If priority is to be fixed, the SDT / Balance team will look at it.
well then don't reject this change out of hand. Who is even on the balance team these days? What is their opinion on the matter?
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3rdCondor
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #61 on:
August 28, 2011, 05:54:47 pm »
It should remain the top priority because it doesn't have that many functions at all. It should be the "decoy bitch" for other tanks to shoot at.
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #62 on:
August 28, 2011, 05:55:33 pm »
Quote from: CrazyWR on August 28, 2011, 05:50:59 pm
well then don't reject this change out of hand. Who is even on the balance team these days? What is their opinion on the matter?
I didnt reject the change out of hand.
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CrazyWR
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #63 on:
August 28, 2011, 06:05:20 pm »
Good enough for me. Apologies for being obnoxious.
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EIRRMod
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #64 on:
August 28, 2011, 06:33:17 pm »
Quote from: CrazyWR on August 28, 2011, 06:05:20 pm
Good enough for me. Apologies for being obnoxious.
All good - just remember, this mod is for you guys, we dont do things / ignore things to piss you off, it just takes time with limited resources / time
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AmPM
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Posts: 7978
Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #65 on:
August 28, 2011, 06:47:09 pm »
I'm pretty sure you do things to piss people off.
Also, when is Tiger Ace with V1 launcher coming in?
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EIRRMod
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #66 on:
August 28, 2011, 06:48:42 pm »
Quote from: AmPM on August 28, 2011, 06:47:09 pm
I'm pretty sure you do things to piss people off.
Oh me personally? Fuck yeah!
I meant 'we' as in the royal 'all of us' we. LOL
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Also, when is Tiger Ace with V1 launcher coming in?
When I start playing Axis again, and I get pissed off.
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CrazyWR
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #67 on:
August 28, 2011, 09:47:09 pm »
ucross?
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EIRRMod
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #68 on:
August 28, 2011, 09:52:33 pm »
Quote from: CrazyWR on August 28, 2011, 09:47:09 pm
ucross?
uthink?
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Illegal_Carrot
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Posts: 1068
Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #69 on:
August 30, 2011, 01:37:49 am »
Yo, there's definitely something wrong with the CCT targeting tables as my Ostwind was continuously prioritizing a CCT over some nearby infantry, making it literally impossible to micro my Ostwind while firing at the infantry.
Also, the CCT should be given the lowest priority of all Allied armor, for every AT weapon. The CCT poses no actual threat itself, while the rest of the Allied armor does. It would be stupid if Schrecks targeted infantry over vehicles, or if all Allied rifles/MGs targeted Vampire/Munitions HTs over Panzergrens. Using the CCT as a 'target priority bitch' for another tank is not only game-breakingly stupid and earth-shakingly unrealistic, but tantamount to abuse of a broken game mechanic.
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #70 on:
August 30, 2011, 05:30:43 am »
Quote from: Illegal_Carrot on August 30, 2011, 01:37:49 am
Yo, there's definitely something wrong with the CCT targeting tables as my Ostwind was continuously prioritizing a CCT over some nearby infantry, making it literally impossible to micro my Ostwind while firing at the infantry.
Also, the CCT should be given the lowest priority of all Allied armor, for every AT weapon. The CCT poses no actual threat itself, while the rest of the Allied armor does. It would be stupid if Schrecks targeted infantry over vehicles, or if all Allied rifles/MGs targeted Vampire/Munitions HTs over Panzergrens. Using the CCT as a 'target priority bitch' for another tank is not only game-breakingly stupid and earth-shakingly unrealistic, but tantamount to abuse of a broken game mechanic.
You read the thread yet? CCT has same priority as cromwell because it has same armour.
And unless ostwind bugged, it won't target a cromwell over infantry.
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LeoPhone
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #71 on:
August 30, 2011, 08:10:05 am »
Quote from: Illegal_Carrot on August 30, 2011, 01:37:49 am
Yo, there's definitely something wrong with the CCT targeting tables as my Ostwind was continuously prioritizing a CCT over some nearby infantry, making it literally impossible to micro my Ostwind while firing at the infantry.
replay or didnt happen.
when I test it ostwind picks infantry over CCT even while it was shooting at CCT before and rifles are at long range, CCT short range.
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Tymathee
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Posts: 9741
Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #72 on:
August 30, 2011, 09:14:18 am »
is it really that big of a deal to have a 5 page thread over? If someone expertly uses their cct to screen for the FF so it doesn't get hit or to draw atg fire, kudos to them!
are you going to want bikes and jeeps n stuff to get lower priorities as well when they make your atg fire at it? If 2 things have similar priorities, as shermans and croms do, then whatever the atg or tank fires at first it will continue to fire at.
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Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
Katusha
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #73 on:
August 30, 2011, 09:15:52 am »
No I don't mind drawing the first ATG shot, I just want the pak/at weapon to switch to the firefly once it comes into sight, mr. pro atg shot drawer guy!
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Tymathee
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #74 on:
August 30, 2011, 10:25:46 am »
this is a micro intensive game. L2changetargets or L2holdfire
pak38 has same priorities vs
bren, churchill, crom, greyound, m10, m3, pershing, priest and sherman
soo...yeah.
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CrazyWR
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Posts: 3616
Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #75 on:
August 30, 2011, 10:45:29 am »
well it needs to move sherman up in front of cromwell tbh.
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Tymathee
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #76 on:
August 30, 2011, 11:04:35 am »
Quote from: CrazyWR on August 30, 2011, 10:45:29 am
well it needs to move sherman up in front of cromwell tbh.
oh, but its okay for brens and greyhounds to be lower? this includes stags and stuarts
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Smokaz
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Posts: 11418
Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #77 on:
August 30, 2011, 11:10:58 am »
Goddamit. How hard is it to understand why the CCT having priority in terms of other armor is a bad thing, and a advantage to the british player?
- Priority functions automatic, creates alot of retargeting micro for the opposing player while forcing minimal amounts for the CCT-owning players.
- CCT is TOUGH as nails for its price, and its vet caters to surviability only?
Therefore its a great thing for the british player to be abe to auto-trick the axis into shooting the CCT a few times.
However, its a pretty minor issue. Still a good change though.
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Tymathee
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Posts: 9741
Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #78 on:
August 30, 2011, 11:15:03 am »
to me its not that big of a deal since the FF is such a glass cannon.
This "issue" has been around since the brits were introduced, why is it such a big deal now?
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AmPM
Community Mapper
Posts: 7978
Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #79 on:
August 30, 2011, 11:25:45 am »
Because ablative armor hull down firefly is glass? Even the normal Firefly is a tough tank to crack since you should rarely land a shot on it. Also, it dies one shot earlier than a sherman vs P4, STuG, PaK. Not a lot faster like the glasscannon M10/M18/STuG/Tet etc.
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