CrazyWR
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« on: August 26, 2011, 11:40:00 am » |
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It should not be listed as a higher priority target than a firefly...wtf. When I have tanks going in to attack a firefly, and they refocus on the cct every time I give them a move order...its very frustrating.
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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Smokaz
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2011, 11:45:12 am » |
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if you're changing this unit might as well reduce its HP as well. This thing is too beefy for its cost.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2011, 11:47:07 am » |
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if you're changing this unit might as well reduce its HP as well. This thing is too beefy for its cost.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2011, 12:00:23 pm » |
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if you're changing this unit might as well reduce its HP as well. This thing is too beefy for its cost.
yay nerf allies even more |
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He made a funny thread for bear, and got banned.
Now bear makes his own funny thread. It's unsurprisingly not funny.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2011, 12:02:10 pm » |
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I dunno, the priority is good with the CCT - It's the same idea as using a Jeep with a Pershing. ATG's will prioritise the Jeep over the Pershing and let you escape a shot or two because you've had good sense to use a distraction.
It's health is fine tbh.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2011, 12:05:09 pm » |
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Good for you to do that, but its ridiculous that it is possible. In no way should a jeep be a higher priority than a pershing or a cct be higher priority than a FF...
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Hicks58
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2011, 12:08:15 pm » |
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If CoH was about realism I'd totally agree with you.
But it kinda isn't.
CCT's provide buffs and a damage soak, which is good as the FF is pretty fragile when you consider what it has to do.
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2011, 12:46:45 pm » |
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and it could provide +200% buffs, I don't care, it has no gun, the firefly has a huge gun, it should be a higher priority.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2011, 12:53:05 pm » |
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Really, the FF has to go up against targets with 1000-2000 health and a gun that can put it down in anywhere between 4-6 shots depending on the target and crits.
Well tbh, the only way I could advocate the priorities being redone here, is if the priorities are looked at for all sides, as the situation I described for you with the Pershing and a Jeep also applies for Bikes, Kettens, and so on.
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2011, 01:00:30 pm » |
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fair point. Although the FF does outrange everything. But I agree plenty of priorities need fixed.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2011, 02:47:27 pm » |
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yay nerf allies even more
keeps, at your skill level it should be doable to hoard up one or two vet 3 ccts in the same company. Once you get those, enjoy having buffs equal to a extra T4 affecting your tanks. Hell I've tried over and over to get one, but mine just end up killed or used to block or spot etc. CCT is kinda meh at vet 0, but once it hits vet 3 its a priority target. I threw two rocket arty's at Pandas vet 3 cct, combined I think they did like 50% hp worth of damage. Kinda anecdotic or whateva, but his cct-affected churchills seemed to fire every 4 seconds. thats pretty FAST. Derp. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2011, 02:57:27 pm » |
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keeps, at your skill level it should be doable to hoard up one or two vet 3 ccts in the same company.
Once you get those, enjoy having buffs equal to a extra T4 affecting your tanks.
Hell I've tried over and over to get one, but mine just end up killed or used to block or spot etc.
CCT is kinda meh at vet 0, but once it hits vet 3 its a priority target.
I threw two rocket arty's at Pandas vet 3 cct, combined I think they did like 50% hp worth of damage.
Kinda anecdotic or whateva, but his cct-affected churchills seemed to fire every 4 seconds. thats pretty FAST.
Derp.
This is a game of chance. For all you know those rockets didn't penetrate. And not to mention FS isn't meant to be effectively used against a single target. Thats like shooting a nebel at 1 rifleman squad and expecting that just because the barrage holds high overall power that it should totally decimate them. |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2011, 02:59:52 pm » |
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No doubt the current RA is poor at targeting a single-full health tank. My retort is that the thing itself is damn strong and resilient against fire, and that the buffs it gives are comparable to having a T4 set of bonuses affecting your tanks. At vet 3.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2011, 04:00:25 pm » |
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Pretty sure the CCT gets it's uber-lol-wut buffs at vet 2, just like the various Officers. Yup, just checked, it's vet 2. Vet 3 is purely for the CCT's benefit alone.
It also makes it look a bit more pimped - A vet 3 CCT and a vet 3 FF looks more awesome than a vet 2 CCT and a vet 3 FF, even though they accomplish the same thing.
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2011, 04:26:08 pm » |
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you can't unless u change the armor cuz its a cromwell and uses its armor.
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Shabtajus
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2011, 05:29:52 am » |
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yay nerf allies even more
good point. axis have more than enough good things. cct is not so OP to be nerfed |
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2011, 05:42:03 am » |
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I still wonder why 57mm pounces from allied vehicles more often than it does from axis ones...
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2011, 07:50:19 am » |
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I still wonder why 57mm pounces from allied vehicles more often than it does from axis ones...
coz allied captured weapons are less powerful vs allies just as axis captured weapons are less powerful vs axis. |
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2011, 07:54:28 am » |
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I want ALLLLL target priorties set to 0.
When I target a unit I WANT to shoot at it, i don;t want the game of skill and micro to take that out of my hands.
Its why i hate COH, and why EIR removed that stupid find cover for unit Bullshit when it would run into the enemy to find cover....
Make it so that the person picks the targets or it fires at whever comes first.... LEt the players decide to switch targets
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Puddin' spamtmi cant really blame smokaz i mean playing against puddin is like trying to fight off breast cancer. You might win and do it and be a bad ass but you'll feel sick and mutilated forever.
Puddin' spamtm is soulcrushing... what's hard to understand about that?
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Tymathee
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2011, 08:07:11 am » |
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i kinda agree with puddin, but i'd change that further so that weapon that are mainly used for AT (atgs, tank destroyers) should target tanks first so all infantry priority 0 and vehicles meh 5/10 whatever. vice versa for AI specialistatinos (hmg, sniper)
but for things that can do both like tigers, shermans put it all at 0.
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